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| Another game of progress, pretty pleased with how our season is unfolding.
On saying that, we played for 30 minutes in the first half and 20 in the second. Whilst we played well for those spells, I’m a bit disappointed at the way we took our foot off the pedal. Don't think we handled the break in play well, it spoilt our rhythm but we shouldn't let that happen. Hope Gentle's not happy about it, either.
I always think there's a bit of difficulty in commenting on how players have performed in blowout games like that, as in all honesty as well as we played for most of the match, Widnes were equally awful. The first 2 tries were well worked from us, but the next 2 showed up some terrible defence from them, and that was the case all day. Some standouts for me were Lynch again, obviously Tickle, I thought Bowden did well in a decent-sized stint, Sharp had another good game, we saw a typical Houghton display for 60 minutes (Heremaia can't get fit quick enough IMO), and McKinnon was possibly the best of the lot. Seymour also looks better with every game to me, which is to be expected, even if it's happening slightly slower than we'd hope.
Mainly positives, but a particularly annoying negative with the way we fell away. We played some good stuff and racked up a score though, so maybe I'm just being a grumpy bugger.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Another game of progress, pretty pleased with how our season is unfolding.
On saying that, we played for 30 minutes in the first half and 20 in the second. Whilst we played well for those spells, I’m a bit disappointed at the way we took our foot off the pedal. Don't think we handled the break in play well, it spoilt our rhythm but we shouldn't let that happen. Hope Gentle's not happy about it, either.
I always think there's a bit of difficulty in commenting on how players have performed in blowout games like that, as in all honesty as well as we played for most of the match, Widnes were equally awful. The first 2 tries were well worked from us, but the next 2 showed up some terrible defence from them, and that was the case all day. Some standouts for me were Lynch again, obviously Tickle, I thought Bowden did well in a decent-sized stint, Sharp had another good game, we saw a typical Houghton display for 60 minutes (Heremaia can't get fit quick enough IMO), and McKinnon was possibly the best of the lot. Seymour also looks better with every game to me, which is to be expected, even if it's happening slightly slower than we'd hope.
Mainly positives, but a particularly annoying negative with the way we fell away. We played some good stuff and racked up a score though, so maybe I'm just being a [ugrumpy bugger[/u.'"
no surely not???
you forgot to mention another solid outing from Jordan Turner mate!!! or doesnt playing Widnes count?
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| I thought the forwards were superb , There definitely laying the foundations for the halves to work behind. As said by other posters above , The only blip on that performance was the last 10 minutes.
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| Quote ="voodooroo"no surely not???
you forgot to mention another solid outing from Jordan Turner mate!!! or doesnt playing Widnes count?
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I said before the game that even if he played well 1 more match is a step in the right direction but not proof he's the answer. I thought he did little wrong but couldn't particularly impress because the opposition didn't really test him. That's not a criticism as I thought all of the 3/4's were in the same boat, I only mentioned Sharp because he took a couple of kicks well, returned them impressively, and produced a lovely jump and knock back for Whiting's try.
I've always said Turner is very good going forward, and that's pretty much all he had to do yesterday, so I learnt nothing new. Having said that both tries did happen to come down his side. I haven't seen the highlights yet and I sit in the South West corner, pretty much as far away from them as possible, so I'm not blaming him for them, just pointing something out.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I said before the game that even if he played well 1 more match is a step in the right direction but not proof he's the answer. I thought he did little wrong but couldn't particularly impress because the opposition didn't really test him. That's not a criticism as I thought all of the 3/4's were in the same boat, I only mentioned Sharp because he took a couple of kicks well, returned them impressively, and produced a lovely jump and knock back for Whiting's try.
I've always said Turner is very good going forward, and that's pretty much all he had to do yesterday, so I learnt nothing new. [uHaving said that both tries did happen to come down his side. I haven't seen the highlights yet and I sit in the South West corner, pretty much as far away from them as possible, so I'm not blaming him for them, just pointing something out.'"
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Would you believe it. Its also the side that Tom Briscoe plays but I notice you haven't drawn him into this conversation.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler" Whilst we played well for those spells, I’m a bit disappointed at the way we took our foot off the pedal. Don't think we handled the break in play well, it spoilt our rhythm but we shouldn't let that happen. Hope Gentle's not happy about it, either.'"
Listening to Gentle in his post match interview he did mention that although they did some good stuff and executed some of the plays they have been working on picked up on the fact we only played for 60 mins and said he wasn't happy with that but can understand why they did but will work on that.
The more I hear from Gentle after the games the more impressed I am with him as a Coach.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"[/u
Would you believe it. Its also the side that Tom Briscoe plays but I notice you haven't drawn him into this conversation.'"
I didn't draw Turner into it, I was specifically asked about him. Seeing as you ask, I didn't think Briscoe got involved as much as usual, but then popped up with his poaching instinct to take his try.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Listening to Gentle in his post match interview he did mention that although they did some good stuff and executed some of the plays they have been working on picked up on the fact we only played for 60 mins and said he wasn't happy with that but can understand why they did but will work on that.
The more I hear from Gentle after the games the more impressed I am with him as a Coach.'"
I'm really liking how he's going about his business. Building our team and performances in the right way and just seeming to talk nothing but sense.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I'm really liking how he's going about his business. Building our team and performances in the right way and just seeming to talk nothing but sense.'"
Does come as a bit of a shock ,doesn`t it?
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| Watched the tries again. What a ing signing Lynch is.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Watched the tries again. What a loving signing Lynch is.'"
He is following on from Swain and Fitzgibbon in being our 'engine room' you feel that when he plays well (not that he has many off days) the team will play well.
I thought all the forwards were superb and really laid a platform for the backs.
yes it got sloppy in the last 10mins, but as others have already mentioned the long break for Briscoe's injury took the momentum out of us, and the players are human...when you are so far ahead you aren't going to risk getting injured or getting sent off.
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| Quote ="UllFC"He is following on from Swain and Fitzgibbon in being our 'engine room' you feel that when he plays well (not that he has many off days) the team will play well.
I thought all the forwards were superb and really laid a platform for the backs.
yes it got sloppy in the last 10mins, but as others have already mentioned the long break for Briscoe's injury took the momentum out of us, and the players are human...when you are so far ahead you aren't going to risk getting injured or getting sent off.'"
I thought Lynch showed more then just an engine yesterday. His passes were essential to a fair few of our tries.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I thought Lynch showed more then just an engine yesterday. His passes were essential to a fair few of our tries.'"
I thought in the 2nd half Lynchy had decided he'd be a winger when he made the break down the touchline lol
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| Great display by the team yesterday. It's a shame we didn't kick on in the last twenty minutes and hit 70 plus it was disappointing not to keep a clean sheet.
Still, it'll give Gentle something to work on this week.
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| It was alot better than i was expecting and played some really good stuff for 60,65 mins....just a shame they wasnt more ruthless as i thought they could have put 70 on em and two trys flattered them for me! Lynch has been superb so far this year and mckinnon looks like he could score everytime he gets his hands on the ball....how olds bowden? Bloody huge!!!
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I said before the game that even if he played well 1 more match is a step in the right direction but not proof he's the answer. I thought he did little wrong but couldn't particularly impress because the opposition didn't really test him. That's not a criticism as I thought all of the 3/4's were in the same boat, I only mentioned Sharp because he took a couple of kicks well, returned them impressively, and produced a lovely jump and knock back for Whiting's try.
I've always said Turner is very good going forward, and that's pretty much all he had to do yesterday, so I learnt nothing new. Having said that both tries did happen to come down his side. =#0000FFI haven't seen the highlights yet and I sit in the South West corner, pretty much as far away from them as possible, so I'm not blaming him for them, just pointing something out.'"
I've just had a look at SL Fulltime, Voodooroo, don't think you'll like how I saw them.
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| He needs to get it right quick or he'll be another Hall.
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| There was a right no it all behind me yesterday slating Houghton and how he'd done nothing all game! strange how some people see things, or how they just love to moan about FC
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| Quote ="Stan2363"There was a right no it all behind me yesterday slating Houghton and how he'd done nothing all game! strange how some people see things, or how they just love to moan about FC'"
Heard that myself near me,very strange how some people view the game.
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| Just watch the Highlights - some great trys!
McKinnon looks to be a huge part of how we play now - its great having that extra pivot!
And Lynch has to be one of the best props in the league - surely?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I've just had a look at SL Fulltime, Voodooroo, don't think you'll like how I saw them.'"
Turner had a decent game, always impressive with ball in hand. He did shoot of the line for one of the tries although Briscoe was also caught out. Being picky he also blew a try with the first play of the game when he cut inside instead of drawing the fullback and passing to Briscoe.
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| The best thing for me was how aggressive our defence is, especially big Sam. We are trying to win every collision and showing a bit of a nasty streak.
There was one tackle were the widnes player got hit by both Moa and Manu! Not the sort of sandwhich i'd enjoy
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Turner had a decent game, always impressive with ball in hand. He did shoot of the line for one of the tries although Briscoe was also caught out. Being picky he also blew a try with the first play of the game when he cut inside instead of drawing the fullback and passing to Briscoe.'"
I agree he had a decent game, but as I said in my initial post I think it’s always difficult to adequately appraise players in games like that. We were so easily on the front foot that for most of the game you only see half of a player’s game. With Turner that meant you didn’t see much of his one area of concern, and in the only spell where you did he was caught out twice (not alone on the 2nd occasion though, both he and Briscoe were at fault IMO).
So I’m not saying he played poorly, simply that he still didn’t do anything to convince me he can be a first choice centre for us if we want to be top 4.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Watched the tries again. What a loving signing Lynch is.'"
Lynch will turn out to be a better signing than Fitzgibbon.I know 2 completely different positions but Lynch just seems to be more better with ball in hand.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Great display by the team yesterday. It's a shame we didn't kick on in the last twenty minutes and hit 70 plus it was disappointing not to keep a clean sheet.
Still, it'll give Gentle something to work on this week.'"
I`m with you.
Peter Gentle will be FURIOUS! He should have got the message out in the second stanza.When the tank is empty you should go for the one pointer to eat up the clock.It should be up the jumper time,and keep your eye out for the opposition coming up on the blind side.Any youngsters watching out there you do not put the cue on the rack until 80 minutes.Without a doubt you will get through.Its as simple as that.
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