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| The biggest cock in all of this is Ian Smith who should have sent both players to the sin bin to cool down but no,he had to send radders off because he could not handle the situation,what a fookin joke for a ref
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| Quote ="black and Whiteley"Am I the only one who feels this has got a bit out of control and thinks on this occasion Bailey has not done much wrong.
Don't get me wrong the guy is a Mongrel and a total Sh1thous@, but I can't see any harm in this incident.
Watching it back it is clear to me Bailey is making a valid attempt to wriggle out of the tackle and get a quick play of the ball which rightfully he can do. He catches Radford a few times with his elbow, however he is not looking towards Lee and can't see it as intentional as it happens so quick. Lee on the other hand is looking the other way, feels the blows to the head a probably thinks he is in a fight and understandably retaliates. The women on here saying he hits a man when he is down cannot ever have been in a scrap because I can tell you if you get hit 3 or 4 times you turn round and start swinging not stand up take ten paces then start fighting.
Punishment I agree should have been equal with ideally both getting ten, I dont like sending offs as it ruins the flow of the game and everyone automatically can see how the game will go. Its not the same as football were 10 men can match 11, fatigue plays a big part in creating overlaps.
Another interesting part was If you watch the after match interview with Sinfield you can see Radders and Bailey exchanging handshakes and apologies in the background. Knowing the type of character Lee is I dont believe he would of waited on the touchline for Bailey if he had felt aggreived.
Hopefully this is the way the disciplinary will see it and call it sending off sufficient.'"
Spot on my friend.
Bailey was making a genuine attempt to get to his feet and play the ball, whilst Radders could easily have been penalised for not releasing the legs and rolling away.
I have my suspicions about the elbows. Even if your looking elsewhere you know when you've caught someone with your elbow, and Ryan could just as easily been penalised for that.
Lee, who has played the game long enough, acted like a complete muppet in putting in the cheap shots. Had they been standing toe to toe as your manager suggested, then it would have been a straight yellow for both, nowt wrong with a bit of biff, but when you attempt to repeatedly punch someone who is on the ground then the Ref has no option, but to produce the red card.
Radders cost you the game, 4th place and 2 bites at the cherry for the GF, something the other posters seem to have forgotton in there haste to spew a load of bile about Bailey.
As Lee missed most of the match, and the consequences of that, I hope Red Hall do the sensible thing and decide Sending Off Sufficient.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Spot on my friend.
Bailey was making a genuine attempt to get to his feet and play the ball, whilst Radders could easily have been penalised for not releasing the legs and rolling away.
I have my suspicions about the elbows. Even if your looking elsewhere you know when you've caught someone with your elbow, and Ryan could just as easily been penalised for that.
Lee, who has played the game long enough, acted like a complete muppet in putting in the cheap shots. Had they been standing toe to toe as your manager suggested, then it would have been a straight yellow for both, nowt wrong with a bit of biff, but when you attempt to repeatedly punch someone who is on the ground then the Ref has no option, but to produce the red card.
Radders cost you the game, 4th place and 2 bites at the cherry for the GF, something the other posters seem to have forgotton in there haste to spew a load of bile about Bailey.
As Lee missed most of the match, and the consequences of that, I hope Red Hall do the sensible thing and decide Sending Off Sufficient.'"
Good point raised here.
If you hit someone with an elbow you know it!!.
So maybe IF once he knew he had and never done it a few more times, then MAYBE radders wouldn't have retaliated the way he did..
BAiley has a knack For doing sh** like this nearly every week.
He is nothing but an animal who picked on the wrong lad this time.
Don't condone radders reactions....but its about time he was on the receiving end for a change and his attempted head butt was nothing short of embarrassing..
Both should've been binned to cool down imo nothing more, spoiled what was a otherwise a good game.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Spot on my friend.
Bailey was making a genuine attempt to get to his feet and play the ball, whilst Radders could easily have been penalised for not releasing the legs and rolling away.
I have my suspicions about the elbows. Even if your looking elsewhere you know when you've caught someone with your elbow, and Ryan could just as easily been penalised for that.
Lee, who has played the game long enough, acted like a complete muppet in putting in the cheap shots. Had they been standing toe to toe as your manager suggested, then it would have been a straight yellow for both, nowt wrong with a bit of biff, but when you attempt to repeatedly punch someone who is on the ground then the Ref has no option, but to produce the red card.
Radders cost you the game, 4th place and 2 bites at the cherry for the GF, something the other posters seem to have forgotton in there haste to spew a load of bile about Bailey.
As Lee missed most of the match, and the consequences of that, I hope Red Hall do the sensible thing and decide Sending Off Sufficient.'"
I agree with what you say about Radford, but not what you say about Bailey.
Anyone looking at the footage with an unbiased eye would conclude what Bailey was doing was intentional.
Don't you Rhinos fans ever get tired of blindly defending Bailey whatever he does?
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Spot on my friend.
Bailey was making a genuine attempt to get to his feet and play the ball, whilst Radders could easily have been penalised for not releasing the legs and rolling away.
I have my suspicions about the elbows. Even if your looking elsewhere you know when you've caught someone with your elbow, and Ryan could just as easily been penalised for that.
Lee, who has played the game long enough, acted like a complete muppet in putting in the cheap shots. Had they been standing toe to toe as your manager suggested, then it would have been a straight yellow for both, nowt wrong with a bit of biff, but when you attempt to repeatedly punch someone who is on the ground then the Ref has no option, but to produce the red card.
Radders cost you the game, 4th place and 2 bites at the cherry for the GF, something the other posters seem to have forgotton in there haste to spew a load of bile about Bailey.
As Lee missed most of the match, and the consequences of that, I hope Red Hall do the sensible thing and decide Sending Off Sufficient.'"
But maybe he didnt feel like he was a muppet because he had already received 3 or 4 cheap shots himself. Bailey may have realised what he was doing but in the speed of the tackle and quickness to play the ball these things happen.
Just trying to put myself in Lee's Situation, he has been hit so instantly retaliates regardless of being toe to toe or not.
Agreed it cost us the game and two bites of the cherry, however I feel your first bite will be more than you can chew.
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| Radders punched someone in the head on the floor......should be sending off offence though many get away with it week in week out.
Bailey knew exactly what he was doing....you dont try to get up by ramming your elbow 4 times into someones head who is on the floor.....should be sending off though as above many get away with it week in week out.
I can not believe for one second the ref did not see bailey headbutt Long....instant sending off offence .....he was 1 meter away facing bailey........If he cant see from 1 metre he should not be referring......though he'll get a game next week without no punishment. And how he missed the obstruction in build up to maguires final try begarrs belief, though i'm disappointed our players never appealled to ref about it.........Sinfield would STILL be moaning about it.
I hate to see players sent off unless no other option..............his options could have been original incident both players warned or yellow carded, but the headbutt incident should have have had no option and been an instant red card.
Smith bottled it..................Cummings has to get his act together and start dropping these refs and bring in others. Players and coaches have to take responsibility for their actions, mistakes and so should all match officials.
2 refs as in Aus will do me...........speed the game up and cut out all the rubbish on the floor........if we don't we'll get murdered in internationals.
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| Bailey should have been sent off for the full on head butt against Long. End of. Smith either missed this or bottled it. Will the RFL ban him considering poor Leeds's injury problems? We all know the answer to that. Stinks. Meanwhile we now have the fiercest game going for our first play off and whoever comes through will have to go away to Wire/Saints with no chance.
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| Quote ="lummy"Bailey should have been sent off for the full on head butt against Long. End of. Smith either missed this or bottled it. Will the RFL ban him considering poor Leeds's injury problems? We all know the answer to that. Stinks. Meanwhile we now have the fiercest game going for our first play off and whoever comes through will have to go away to Wire/Saints with no chance.'"
Pure and simple he bottled it... if he missed it from where he was he shouldn't be officiating.
As per usual nothing will happen to Bailey as you say its leeds..
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| bailey did nothing wrong at all he is trying to get a quick play the ball going but radford wont let go, u see players get boots in the face in the tackle all the time but because its bailey in the incident its always is fault, i like how the hull fans remember stuff the ref only got wrong with them, thers no mention of a few nock ons that he let go from the hull players or the penalty you kicked for been held when he was clearly still moving.in a contact sport you are bound to get stray arms and boots in a tackle now stop moaning radford cost u the game simple as
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| Quote ="batesylufc"bailey did nothing wrong at all he is trying to get a quick play the ball going but radford wont let go, u see players get boots in the face in the tackle all the time but because its bailey in the incident its always is fault, i like how the hull fans remember stuff the ref only got wrong with them, thers no mention of a few nock ons that he let go from the hull players or the penalty you kicked for been held when he was clearly still moving.in a contact sport you are bound to get stray arms and boots in a tackle now stop moaning radford cost u the game simple as'"
"stray arms" yes, deliberate elbows to the head, no.
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| You dont get up or attempt to get up by attempting to pound the opponents head with your elbow....
Reality is, it was a heated high pressure game, two props full of adrenaline!.....should have been two sin bins and report! This is the business end of the season, it rough, its tough its RL....
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| Quote ="lummy"Bailey should have been sent off for the full on head butt against Long'"
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| Quote ="batesylufc"bailey did nothing wrong at all he is trying to get a quick play the ball going but radford wont let go, u see players get boots in the face in the tackle all the time but because its bailey in the incident its always is fault, i like how the hull fans remember stuff the ref only got wrong with them, thers no mention of a few nock ons that he let go from the hull players or the penalty you kicked for been held when he was clearly still moving.in a contact sport you are bound to get stray arms and boots in a tackle now stop moaning radford cost u the game simple as'"
He wasn't still moving in the refs view as he called held, and the knock on by Lyne wasn't a knock on in any sense, but hey, you carry on.
We lost, I'm over it, seems that some can't get over the fact they won and just move on to the next game.
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| Quote ="Chris28"seems that some can't get over the fact they won and just move on to the next game.'"
On a thread thats your full of lot bleating about TMFMISL being on report thats rich
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| its annoying that wher called the whinos but looking on your board christ u cant stop going on about it,and i think u lot of got a short memory or just stupid by singing y warrington to us may i ask who nocked you out again?
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| Bailey is a WUM and gets under players skin and they shouldnt get wound up by him as there mind is then no longer fully on the game but more about a revenge mission. I agree Bailey did elbow Radford in the head but by no means was it on purpose, he was just trying to get up for a quick PTB. Some refs might not have sent Radford off but he is leaving himself open to it by punching a player in the head several times from what looked unprovoked.
James Graham has been found out by Baileys tactics in the past especially in big matches and he is one of the best props in the world.
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| Would this be the same Bailey who was cited last week for the same offence in the 80th minute. Hopefully they will have a better view of it this time as last weeks was inconclusive!
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| Sounds about right, Radford up, no mention of Bailey even being cited!!!
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| Quote ="Airlie Birds Wing"Sounds about right, Radford up, no mention of Bailey even being cited!!!'"
Radford has a case to answer simply because of the red card.
No other players are mentioned on the RFL's disciplinary page, that doesn't mean they won't be
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| Pitty radford didn't do more damage on the ****
I hope he tries it on sunday cause he will get more of that from a few of our men
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| By the looks of it - Bailey has gotten away with it, and although Radford should get SOS, he will no doubt be handed a one match ban so that the RFL can make an example of him.
On the other hand the RFL have shown that you can elbow people as hard as you like, and as many times as you like in the head during a tackle.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"I agree with what you say about Radford, but not what you say about Bailey.
Anyone looking at the footage with an unbiased eye would conclude what Bailey was doing was intentional.
Don't you Rhinos fans ever get tired of blindly defending Bailey whatever he does?'"
Sorry, no you are wrong. I have an unbiased eye. I watched the game not really bothered who won. I don't support Leeds, nor do I rate Bailey, but all I saw was Radford hold him down too long, Bailey struggle to get up and catch Radford head. Radford was the one who totally lost it.
Dont the hull fans get tired of looking for someone else to blame?
For what its worth I thought hull played well enough to win it with 12 men, and would probably gone on to win with a full compliment.
Good look this coming weekend.
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| Regardless of whether the elbows were deliberate or not, the attempted head-butt on Long was. If that's not a red card, then what is?
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Regardless of whether the elbows were deliberate or not, the attempted head-butt on Long was. If that's not a red card, then what is?'"
Luckily he missed,and Long didn`t milk it.
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| Quote ="batesylufc"bailey did nothing wrong at all he is trying to get a quick play the ball going but radford wont let go, u see players get boots in the face in the tackle all the time but because its bailey in the incident its always is fault, i like how the hull fans remember stuff the ref only got wrong with them, thers no mention of a few nock ons that he let go from the hull players or the penalty you kicked for been held when he was clearly still moving.in a contact sport you are bound to get stray arms and boots in a tackle now stop moaning radford cost u the game simple as'"
I've asked three Rhinos fans this on here but no-one seems to be able to answer, maybe you will:
Do you think four sharp jabs of the elbow is a good way of getting to your feet and what was he aiming for?
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