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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'd play Fitz but only in two 20 minute spells. With easter coming up, and with all due respect to Salford, we have much tougher tests to face in the next few weeks. If the loss of Fitz for 40 minutes is enough to cause us to lose to the worst team in the league then we really are nowhere near as good as the league table currently suggests.'"
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| The decission will probably be made by Fitz himself and I can't imagine him wanting to be 'rested' half a dozen games in to what could be his final ever season. Personally I think he'll need dragging off.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I wouldn't. We don't have the squad depth in the backs to get to OT and win. CC on the other hand, if we got past Leeds and a decent draw, might be on, particularly with Long's love affair with the cup (says in his book it's his favoured competition) and Fitz/O'Meley's big game experience.'"
Says who?
We should be looking to win both, even more so with Leeds now missing a few players.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'd play Fitz but only in two 20 minute spells. With easter coming up, and with all due respect to Salford, we have much tougher tests to face in the next few weeks. If the loss of Fitz for 40 minutes is enough to cause us to lose to the worst team in the league then we really are nowhere near as good as the league table currently suggests.'"
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| Quote ="pmarrow"[uSays who?[/u
We should be looking to win both, even more so with Leeds now missing a few players.'"
Me. We started the season with a 19 year old centre being given one wing shirt and no recognised first choice right centre. Are Leeds/Saints/Wigan/Warrington/Hudds in this situation?
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| Anyone know how many tackles Fitz was on after the last round? He's now 2nd in the comp on 317 (average of 45 per game)
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Anyone know how many tackles Fitz was on after the last round? He's now 2nd in the comp on 317 (average of 45 per game)
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could he beat swains record?
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| imagine him and Swain in the same team... now that would be worth the admission fee alone
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| 2nd in the tackle chart and 6th in the carries. And he felt flat on Friday. Not bad is he.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"2nd in the tackle chart and 6th in the carries. And he felt flat on Friday. Not bad is he.'"
And all done in the cold, wet and snowy conditions of an English winter. Can't wait to see if he has any improvement left in him if and when the warmer weather arrives.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"2nd in the tackle chart and 6th in the carries. And he felt flat on Friday. Not bad is he.'"
He looked done for on Friday. Despite how good he has been we don't want him to burn out and he will need some rest along the way.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He looked done for on Friday. Despite how good he has been we don't want him to burn out and he will need some rest along the way.'"
Which is why I started this thread in the first place. The guy is class, but Agar needs to be mindful of not burning him out, infact I was very surprised that Agar didn't take him off for the last 10 mins or so like he did against cas.
To have any chance of winning silverware, we will need Fitz to be performing for us at a consitent level all season. We can't expect him to get through his current workload week after week without the odd rest.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Anyone know how many tackles Fitz was on after the last round? He's now [u2nd[/u in the comp on 317 (average of 45 per game)
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Shoddy work. Only second?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He looked done for on Friday. Despite how good he has been we don't want him to burn out and he will need some rest along the way.'"
Which is the reason i've said in the Salford thread that i'd rest Fitz plus O'Meley. We have strength in depth and we should use it when it's available rather than wishing we had used it when maybe it isn't available or we pick up injuries.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Which is the reason i've said in the Salford thread that i'd rest Fitz plus O'Meley. We have strength in depth and we should use it when it's available rather than wishing we had used it when maybe it isn't available or we pick up injuries.'"
Then if Agar does drop players and we happen to lose, we can start Agar out again
As proved already this season there are no more "give me games" anymore, imo play your best team at all times, unless you're fortunate to be 7 points clear with 3 games left.
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Quote ="chico's nose"As we have all seen since the start of the season, Fitz is simply amazing. His work ethic each week is top noch and he holds nothing back.
Last night's performance was again outstanding, and without seeing the stats I would imagine that he made between 25 - 30 tackles and had around 20 hit ups. Whatever the stats say, it was another phenomonal effort.
The man seems to be a machine and he gives us 80 mins most weeks. Although he seems to be a freak, should we be expecting these types of performance every single week?. Surly the point will come when the guy deserves a breather, if only to try to prevent burn out or injury. So question is when, if ever do people feel that Fitz is due a rest?
For me, next week at Salford would be the ideal chance to give the guy a break before the Easter programme and two tough games with Leeds.'"
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Last night's performance was again outstanding, and without seeing the stats I would imagine that he made between 25 - 30 tackles and had around 20 hit ups. Whatever the stats say, it was another phenomonal effort.
The man seems to be a machine and he gives us 80 mins most weeks. Although he seems to be a freak, should we be expecting these types of performance every single week?. Surly the point will come when the guy deserves a breather, if only to try to prevent burn out or injury. So question is when, if ever do people feel that Fitz is due a rest?
For me, next week at Salford would be the ideal chance to give the guy a break before the Easter programme and two tough games with Leeds.'"
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| Quote ="FC Guvnor"
As proved already this season there are no more "give me games" anymore, imo play your best team at all times'"
Agreed.
Anyone that is 100% fit should play, anyone who isn't shouldn't. Every team is capable of beating each other, why give them the opportunity by 'resting' players that are fit?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Which is the reason i've said in the Salford thread that i'd rest Fitz plus O'Meley. We have strength in depth and we should use it when it's available rather than wishing we had used it when maybe it isn't available or we pick up injuries.'"
Completely agree, although it seems unlikely reading the article Wolfie has linked. Fair enough I guess Agar and the players know better than us what they are capable of.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Completely agree, although it seems unlikely reading the article Wolfie has linked. Fair enough I guess Agar and the players know better than us what they are capable of.'"
Not according to some on here
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Completely agree, although it seems unlikely reading the article Wolfie has linked. Fair enough I guess Agar and the players know better than us what they are capable of.'"
Agree. Hope we don't regret it come playoff time.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Completely agree, although it seems unlikely reading the article Wolfie has linked. Fair enough I guess [uAgar and the players know better than us what they are capable of[/u.'"
Maybe, but look at Fielden, best prop in the world at one point, overplayed supposedly at his behest and Noble allowing it, and burnt out. I'd hope Fitz could be persuaded to take a match off.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe, but look at Fielden, best prop in the world at one point'"
Don't let the bleatings of Eddie and Stevo fool you; he was never anywhere being the best prop in the world.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"Don't let the bleatings of Eddie and Stevo fool you; he was never anywhere being the best prop in the world.'"
He was never the best prop in SL!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe, but look at Fielden, best prop in the world at one point, overplayed supposedly at his behest and Noble allowing it, and burnt out. I'd hope Fitz could be persuaded to take a match off.'"
Fielden put the minutes in, but a bit like Dowes for me, a good workhouse with a decent engine, but not the best in the world by a long way. I'd like to think that someone who's played 300 plus first grade games at the top level plus internationals knows what he's capable of, plus I wouldn't have thought he has had to hit the heights of previous seasons to be a stand out player in SL. Keep him out there, leading by example.
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| Can't believe people want to rest our best players, if we do we have a good chance of getting beat, only rest players when they need it. Start Fitz and give him rest during the game would be a better option. If we had to rest players over the Easter period I would rest them for the Leeds away game.
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