Can people who have been tonight comment on this thread or is it just for the armchair fans ?

They only kick off with each other after a loss..oh dear should be fun and games for Justino again tonight

he's been heavily involved with the side since Kear's days, its hardly like he walked in last season and had to be introduced to everyone. The problems should have been obvious before he even got the head coach's job, its a whole year later and we're no better than we were then.

Mate, you're living in cloud cuckoo land. A lack of a half back doesn't stop us from getting quick PTB, dominating the opposition in defence, making effective interchanges, offloading the ball, backing up the man in posession, running dummy runners, kicking the ball effectively, chasing down kicks as though we're actually interested. It's all down to pish poor coaching. You can tell yourself all you want that sean long will make everything OK again but take it from me, he won't

He couldn't do anything as assistant coach, our main problem lies with the personnel on the pitch, something he could do nothing about until now because of contracts etc.

They saw it needed changing, & did it.
Very pro-active & it's paid off.
No chance of Hull ever doing it though!

I'll give you the interchange thing, but look at us in attack totally unorganised which means should we ever get the quick ptb (usually on the back of Cusack, Dowes or Manu) the only option open to the acting half is to scoot themselves because nobody is ready. Look how slow we are to tap the ball on the 20 ffs. Again support play and offloading is nothing to do with Agar it's been atrocious for years, kicking again is down to lack of personnel Richard Horne should not be anywhere near kicking a ball but has to because there is no one else. We do need more enthusiasm in both attack and defence and maybe once Agar can offload some of the players who are clearly going through the motions this might change.

that will be happening aswel

Codswallop. It's down to coaching, whether that be Agar or the coaches before him. The fact he inherited a problem and hasn't fixed it does not clear him of being at fault.

He's got the same lazy players, let him build his squad and then judge him. Constant knee jerk reactions in regards to coaches by the board only have a detrimental effect in the long run.

it has been obvious for years, so do you not think that the very minute Agar took over he should have made it his top priority, asking the board to bring in a new attack coach if necessary? just what has he done to change anything?

instead we've had a whole year of no progress, in fact i think its actually worse, because at least last season we had the injuries excuse and were getting players like Fellous in just to make a team.

It's not him it's the players that are too lazy to support any breaks made, and Agar hasn't been able to change that because players were tied to contracts.

I've said this before: He's got a healthy amount of the same players McRae did when we commited men forward to both aspects, and other players we've seen do it at their previous clubs before joining Hull. Suggesting it's down to the players not being able/willing to do it when we've seen them do it for others before is looking for excuses for him. It's blatantly obvious that it needs fixing, if he can't see it he shouldn't be a coach, and if the players all won't do as they're told (because we pretty much have nobody doing it, it's not just a few) he's either not strong enough or we need an entire new squad. I fail to believe it's the latter.

Shaun McRae had a far better squad at his disposal and still achieved nothing, and Agar doesn't have a playmaker.

So we've managed to assemble a squad comprised entirely of lazy b'stards? Uniquely in SL? Nothing to do with the coach whatsoever?



There are clearly issues with the playing staff, but to completely absolve Agar of any blame whatsoever just flies in the face of common sense.

Which is something I haven't done, like I've said before Agar does have his short comings, his use of interchanges for one but the constant knee jerk slating of him on here is pathetic. Especially considering the fact some of the people doing it still want to compare what he's accomplished to what McRae accomplished here with a far better squad

Sean Long has been brought in to do 2 jobs.

On the playing field, and on the training pitch.

He will coach our attack, leaving Agar to go and make the tea

Hallelujah!!

Look at Brian Smith at Newcastle.

He has virtually a squad of 'unknown' players,and has turned them into contenders.

He did the same here for us.

Impressed with Agar's (or whoever) acquisitions,for next season
but next year is make or break for Agar - IMHO.

Rich Agar you are so far out of your depth it is untrue

You are a good no 2 thats it

Do you get the best out of your players,have you improved your players,do you give your players a game plan,do you have the respect of the players,are you the man to bring us success???


the answer to all those questions is no, you are not up to the job of coaching hull fc the job is too big for you, you havent got a clue tactically your interchange is a disgrace and its no good saying you dont have the tools to work with internally

it's your team, your players so instead of burying your head in the sand and putting all your eggs into next season baskets improve the players you have at your disposal or move on

Told you I knew you.....and stop hanging around MODS at sainsburys

was trying to get agar a job because he is no good as a coach, i know i will get the usual flak and i don't give a fook

[size=200I could do a better a job than him[/size

That comment is spot on, next year will be Agars team and he will live or die by it. Simple as.

I think it is a shame the way things have turned out for Agar and i would guess that a defeat away at Wakefield will signal his demise given the Hull boards recent reputation in getting rid of Kear and Sharp after similar runs of results.
To be fair to the Hull board though, Agar did look a good appointment at the time. He was an intelligent player and then served a good grounding in the lower leagues with York and then as an assistent with Hull. He looked ready to make the step up but it wasnt to be.
I just fear that situations like this one and Jimmy lowes at Wire will stop Super League clubs giving young British coaches a chance.

4 or 5 [igood[/i players should handle the job nicely. Unfortunately, the market, as it currently is, renders such financially impossible.

With us having the three year license you have got to let Agar stay for at least next season so he can build a side which is his.

The current team is full of plodders so its hard to play free flowing rugby.

The 19 man squad currently picks itself so theres no competition for places. Also we have got 7 players from the original 25 man squad injured/unavailable.

At the end of the day are still in and around the play offs, which i would of settled for after last season and as said above I think another few players would put us as genuine top 4 contenders.