[quote="mwindass":fq505u3k]Salford stuck 40 on Saints today. Who's most at risk for the chop, Wellens or McNamara?[/quote:fq505u3k] Easily wellens, probably the reason they brought briers to the club, for him to take over later this season

York part timers beating the unstoppable kr

https://youtu.be/3Y_FdgiHbrk?si=1fgq_eiS8sle0aM3 Clubs seem to be putting full game replays on YouTube. If anyone is desperate for a rugby fix Cas look poor. That edge including Asi and Cini is all over the place, Cam Scott ran rings round them. Pretty sure we passed up on Asi because of his defence. That Rodwell looks a good prop for Wakey.

https://youtu.be/3Y_FdgiHbrk?si=1fgq_eiS8sle0aM3 Clubs seem to be putting full game replays on YouTube. If anyone is desperate for a rugby fix Cas look poor. That edge including Asi and Cini is all over the place, Cam Scott ran rings round them. Pretty sure we passed up on Asi because of his defence. That Rodwell looks a good prop for Wakey.

[quote="mwindass":1n4nrkob]https://youtu.be/3Y_FdgiHbrk?si=1fgq_eiS8sle0aM3 Clubs seem to be putting full game replays on YouTube. If anyone is desperate for a rugby fix Cas look poor. That edge including Asi and Cini is all over the place, Cam Scott ran rings round them. Pretty sure we passed up on Asi because of his defence. That Rodwell looks a good prop for Wakey.[/quote:1n4nrkob] Yes, Rodwell is class, there is definitely a reason they put him on a long term deal prior to coming into SL, think he will catch a few eyes this year. Tell you what Cam Scott has looked brilliant in the 2 pre season games he's played, Carry's the ball really strong but what really impresses me is his defence.

[quote="homme vaste":2mkv4uoo]Yes, Rodwell is class, there is definitely a reason they put him on a long term deal prior to coming into SL, think he will catch a few eyes this year. Tell you what Cam Scott has looked brilliant in the 2 pre season games he's played, Carry's the ball really strong but what really impresses me is his defence.[/quote:2mkv4uoo] hes a great player cam scott, always rated him, will go well at wakey

Cam's a good lad although he made some silly comments after he left Hull. Just couldn't nail down a spot until 2023, with lots of niggling injuries. His try scoring record was very modest too. I wish him well at Wakey though.

[quote="homme vaste":2dro47ce]Yes, Rodwell is class, there is definitely a reason they put him on a long term deal prior to coming into SL, think he will catch a few eyes this year. Tell you what Cam Scott has looked brilliant in the 2 pre season games he's played, Carry's the ball really strong but what really impresses me is his defence.[/quote:2dro47ce] His best run of form with us was in 2023 and looked like we was ready to kick on, but injuries got in the way.

[quote="homme vaste":sa7qvnp8]Yes, Rodwell is class, there is definitely a reason they put him on a long term deal prior to coming into SL, think he will catch a few eyes this year. Tell you what Cam Scott has looked brilliant in the 2 pre season games he's played, Carry's the ball really strong but what really impresses me is his defence.[/quote:sa7qvnp8] Probably get injured i the next game,e and miss half the season. Never really had a run of games at hull or i think he'd have been pretty good

[quote="Jake the Peg":1km2o35n]Probably get injured i the next game,e and miss half the season. Never really had a run of games at hull or i think he'd have been pretty good[/quote:1km2o35n] I’d wish him well but I’d be lying after his comments.

[quote="FC Callum":aj4on6wy]I’d wish him well but I’d be lying after his comments.[/quote:aj4on6wy] To be fair, I'm not sure why a player would be expected to take some of the abuse he did on social media for getting injured and just stay quiet, fans are entitled to there opinions on players for me equally players have the right to reply, particularly when the abuse is as bad as it is. Every club has there fair share of idiots don't they, sometimes when things are going great, more of those idiots come out of the woodwork. I'm good friends with one of the fringe first teamers at wakey, he reckons when Trueman rocked up to Wakefield he had over 400 vile message requests on his Twitter from FC fans, some of them really vile, I just don't think getting injured or underperforming justifies any of that. Maybe actually look at the parts of your fan base he was calling out because it's probably true they are toxic.

Imo Scott never really hit the heights. Had his chances but injuries and maybe confidence just never did it . As far as Trueman I do think there's a very good player in there but again injuries played a massive part in his time at FC......We move on .......

In regards to Scott & Trueman both are decent players but sadly their time at Hull was blighted significantly by injuries and an inability to stay out the treatment room. Never understand the need for people to use social media to give abuse to others but that now seems to be the way of the world. Hopefully both can have a good run with Wakey though history suggests injury is likely to play a part. For me Scott struggled to reach the level that his potential & early promise showed for a number of reasons with injuries being one of them. Trueman just never got going at Hull through constant injuries. Time will tell how things go for them both. Looking at Cas they looked pretty poor. Think Wellens may be under the pump already with St’s, don’t think he did a great job last season and don’t think he’ll have St’s at top this season either. Appears to be almost a similar situation to when they appointed Cunningham. Looking forward to next weekend when we play Cas.

[quote="homme vaste":akbf1jtu]To be fair, I'm not sure why a player would be expected to take some of the abuse he did on social media for getting injured and just stay quiet, fans are entitled to there opinions on players for me equally players have the right to reply, particularly when the abuse is as bad as it is. Every club has there fair share of idiots don't they, sometimes when things are going great, more of those idiots come out of the woodwork. I'm good friends with one of the fringe first teamers at wakey, he reckons when Trueman rocked up to Wakefield he had over 400 vile message requests on his Twitter from FC fans, some of them really vile, I just don't think getting injured or underperforming justifies any of that. Maybe actually look at the parts of your fan base he was calling out because it's probably true they are toxic.[/quote:akbf1jtu] Think all clubs have their share of toxic fans...kr had their empty vessels and your own fans aren't perfect the way they treated Applegarth when in charge 2 years ago....anyway, good luck to Scott and Trueman, bout time they got a injury free run

[quote="number 6":2pdd6gur]Think all clubs have their share of toxic fans...kr had their empty vessels and your own fans aren't perfect the way they treated Applegarth when in charge 2 years ago....anyway, good luck to Scott and Trueman, bout time they got a injury free run[/quote:2pdd6gur] 100% mate, every club does which is exactly what I said in my post. Although I will be honest, some of the things I have seen come out of FC over the years have been beyond what I have seen at others, I'm talking wishing death on players for signing for a rival club etc, that's just mental to me how so many fans can get on board chanting something like that.. You are right about Applegarth aswell, which is why I had no issues what so ever about him calling the fans out when he moved on.

I've always found wzkey fans to be pretty balanced with huge chips on both shoulders. There were some right s followed them back in the day when the mines were still open. Most of them probably live in a caravan in some desolate place in the east coast by now. Much better than living in wakey of course

[quote="homme vaste":kqwqo7wg]To be fair, I'm not sure why a player would be expected to take some of the abuse he did on social media for getting injured and just stay quiet, fans are entitled to there opinions on players for me equally players have the right to reply, particularly when the abuse is as bad as it is. Every club has there fair share of idiots don't they, sometimes when things are going great, more of those idiots come out of the woodwork. I'm good friends with one of the fringe first teamers at wakey, he reckons when Trueman rocked up to Wakefield he had over 400 vile message requests on his Twitter from FC fans, some of them really vile, I just don't think getting injured or underperforming justifies any of that. Maybe actually look at the parts of your fan base he was calling out because it's probably true they are toxic.[/quote:kqwqo7wg] Yes I agree no player should be subject to that kind of abuse, but he labelled the FC fan base toxic, not the select few who sent messages. At the time they was were mainly good luck replies on social media. Made himself look silly with his outburst.

Well after what feels like forever we are finally at game week. As always with friendlies the result is irrelevant, I think our fitness and intensity levels will be the key things to take away from Saturday, recall us struggling in those departments against Doncaster last year, which in hindsight should have had alarm bells ringing for the season to follow.

Can see it been the usual 40 mins for a lot of the key players (Asiata, Sezer, Ese Ese, Cust etc...) and 40 mins for the younger lads. Then the York Acorn game used as another friendly type run out for the younger lads with a smattering of first teamers. Either way it's great to see some rugby again, feels like it's been a long off season.

Re the twitter messages Trueman has supposedly received, I'll take with a pinch of salt, he only follows about 260 people, so to receive messages of anyonew, not just fc fans they both have to follow each other or your are unable to message that person.

[quote="number 6":1vjqd0yr]Re the twitter messages Trueman has supposedly received, I'll take with a pinch of salt, he only follows about 260 people, so to receive messages of anyonew, not just fc fans they both have to follow each other or your are unable to message that person.[/quote:1vjqd0yr] Does it really matter how many messages he has received? He's still receiving them as did Scott. I don't agree with Scott labelling the whole fanbase as toxic like he did but I can also understand why he made such an outburst when he's receiving such messages. The discussion should more be about what can be done to stop players receiving such messages in the first place. Because they don't deserve that. In fact no one does because this isn't just about sports people or "celebrities" as we can all be victims of such things. More needs to be done to stop people hiding behind phrases like "freedom of speech", "entitled to my opinion" and even "banter" when they are really just being vile, abusive and toxic. At the moment there's no real consequences to such behaviour. And that's not just aimed at us. As Homme Vaste says, every club has it's fair share of idiots as does every fandom whether it's your favourite TV show, films, your favourite band etc.