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| See it just turns into a pathetic squabble.
I had no intention of going last night, but im glad i did, i put my name forward im happy to be an helping hand and make it go forward.
As many say rome wasnt built in a day but there was 8 commited fans who put there thoughts forward and was prepared to put the effort in. Like Wilf said not many turned up but 25% of them was prepared to put the effort in.
Just because you didnt go, it doesnt mean your not a decent fan.
Wilfs point is there's a lot of people criticising our club? And 99% of them had no intention of turning up. I could name a few off here (not that i intend to).
The sole reason for this meeting was to get a commitee together and build on something and thats what all 8 of us have full intentions of doing. We're not here to fight against our club. We're there to work for it, and help the fans.
Its also about sorting fundraising out and fan days out etc.
A lot of positives came out of a very short number of attendees.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I'm confused Wilf, two questions:-
Are you saying the people who didn't go are not fantastic supporters?
Why do people need excuses?'"
No and No. Already it has descended into a squabble! I just think deluded tart that I obviously am that Hutchy and HIsa deserved a bit more support than it got last night thats all.
I just thought that 32 people at a meeting about an organisation that had generated so much debate and strong views on here deserved better than it got. As for being a superior supporter thats just guff I am not better and certainly a lot less committed than many who were there last night, I just think that once again a lot of folks critise our club and want some action but few turn up when they have the opportunity to get involved! Good luck to those who have they will get my full support!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"No and No. Already it has descended into a squabble! I just think deluded tart that I obviously am that Hutchy and HIsa deserved a bit more support than it got last night thats all.
I just thought that 32 people at a meeting about an organisation that had generated so much debate and strong views on here deserved better than it got. As for being a superior supporter thats just guff I am not better and certainly a lot less committed than many who were there last night, I just think that once again a lot of folks critise our club and want some action but few turn up when they have the opportunity to get involved! Good luck to those who have they will get my full support!'"
I've been reading this thread with interest and am not surprised that 32 people turmed up.
People just aren't that bothered about HISA or its alternatives apart from a few hardcore fans/posters on here.
If the club was in real danger of dissolving (like last time) it would be different. Most see the bigger picture, good stadium, good crowds, etc its just that we aren't playing very well at the moment.
I don't think for a minute that the idea of a new ISA would have been suggested if we were top of the league.
Good luck with your endeavours, but I think you're chasing a lost cause.
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| Quote ="Stanley Unwin"I've been reading this thread with interest and am not surprised that 32 people turmed up.
People just aren't that bothered about HISA or its alternatives apart from a few hardcore fans/posters on here.
If the club was in real danger of dissolving (like last time) it would be different. Most see the bigger picture, good stadium, good crowds, etc its just that we aren't playing very well at the moment.
I don't think for a minute that the idea of a new ISA would have been suggested if we were top of the league.
Good luck with your endeavours, but I think you're chasing a lost cause.'"
And that at times is the problem with the view of ISA's an ISA is not just been active in the bad times within the life of a club it is about having a positive link and voice into the club for supporters whether that is good or bad times , fund raising , supporters events , linking into and working alongside other supporter splinter groups etc.
As was said last night the club we all love is / has entered a new era and for an ISA to become successful that also has to be a new era .
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going once,going twice,for the third and final time!!!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"No and No. Already it has descended into a squabble! I just think deluded tart that I obviously am that Hutchy and HIsa deserved a bit more support than it got last night thats all.
I just thought that 32 people at a meeting about an organisation that had generated so much debate and strong views on here deserved better than it got. As for being a superior supporter thats just guff I am not better and certainly a lot less committed than many who were there last night, I just think that once again a lot of folks critise our club and want some action but few turn up when they have the opportunity to get involved! Good luck to those who have they will get my full support!'"
They get my support too, it was just in you post there was inference to them being fantastic supporters and you ended it with 'let the excuses begin'.
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| Quote ="wolfie"Realy,you keep laughing at your own jokes and maybe someone will join in with ye.
by the way my fist is even bigger then my waist
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You must have a fecking struggle buying mittens for winter
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| Quote ="Stanley Unwin"I've been reading this thread with interest and am not surprised that 32 people turmed up.
People just aren't that bothered about HISA or its alternatives apart from a few hardcore fans/posters on here.
If the club was in real danger of dissolving (like last time) it would be different. Most see the bigger picture, good stadium, good crowds, etc its just that we aren't playing very well at the moment.
I don't think for a minute that the idea of a new ISA would have been suggested if we were top of the league.
Good luck with your endeavours, but I think you're chasing a lost cause.'"
Its that sort of attitude that will make things difficult to start with and we really need to work on changing peoples attitudes about what the ISA is for. Its NOT a tool to have a go at the club when we aren't performing well, its a way of getting the fans together in social situations and actually helping the club to improve by fundraising etc. Whilst the club itself has become a business it doesn't mean the fans have to miss out out the social part of being a Hull FC fan and feeling like they can actually have a positive influence on the club, other than turning up on a matchday.
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| Is this a thread about HISA or Wolfie's Gala Day?
I'm confused.
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| Quote ="Newsom 13"Is this a thread about HISA or Wolfie's Gala Day?
I'm confused.'"
Didn't know he was having one, not heard nowt
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Well done to everyone who turned up ,.... a turn out of 32 is pretty pathetic.
Let the excuses begin!!'"
I would have liked to have gone.
Like a great many I joined HISA originally. Unlike a great many I lived outside of the district and for the amount of involvement I could put in it I fast became an irrelevance to the organisation.
I couldn't go last night as much as I would have wanted as Karen had to attend school and someone had to stay home with the kids.
I would be interested in joining the group and putting in as much involvement as I can.
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| Quote ="Newsom 13"Is this a thread about HISA or Wolfie's Gala Day?
I'm confused.'"
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| Everyone is entitled to thier opinions and the ones that are knocking the new ISA before it get's going are noted - thanks.
Like i and others have said many, many well run and successful sports clubs have supporters associations that do a hell of a lot of good work along side the club - why are we any different?
Some people on here are missing the point - it's not about a protest group, it's about getting people together who have a common interest (in this case Hull FC) and doing something positive....if that starts with 8 people fine by me.
We intend to establish the new ISA over a period of time, people will be welcome at any time to join, the more the merrier, if we can do some great stuff along the way like fun days, fund raising, social events and eventually some forms of sponsorship that wull be great...afterall that is what we all want isn't it?
Once the ISA is established i'm sure we can than have our opinions on aspects of the club and when required be objective but constructive at the same time, with the views and opinions of our members at the core.
I'm sure it's not everyones cup of tea and fair do's but i'm all for giving it a good crack, in fact i'm excited about it (sad i know)!!!
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| Quote ="Newsom 13"Is this a thread about HISA or Wolfie's Gala Day?
I'm confused.'" GALA DAY!!!!! Hey I wonder if Horney knows anything about this......I'm sure he would have liked a GALA DAY too!!!
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Shut up you tart........I was all for going and something cropped upto to prevent me from going or would you like me to leave the youngest on her todd in house...........if i am free for the next meeting i will attend....that better for you oh sooper dooper fan.'"
Well fikking said
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| Quote ="wolfie"lowest form of wit'"
As opposed to the lowest form of life.
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| I have been away since the meeting and this is the first chance I have had to make any sort of comment.
First I would like to thank Hutchie for setting up and chairing the meeting, he kept HISA alive when most us sat back and let it wither.
The meeting I did feel was positive, HISA is there for the good times too was a message I took away. The lads who have formed a commitee now need our support for the next move forward, it is not going to be easy most of us knew that anyway. They will help in expanding the organisation to every fan and that is not going to be easy when you look at the comments on here.
It is so important that we have an independant voice that can help the club as well as lobby when it is needed. We ignore such organisations at our peril, its so very easy to sit back and assume that everything in the garden
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| Quote ="Ian P"I have been away since the meeting and this is the first chance I have had to make any sort of comment.
First I would like to thank Hutchie for setting up and chairing the meeting, he kept HISA alive when most us sat back and let it wither.
The meeting I did feel was positive, HISA is there for the good times too was a message I took away. The lads who have formed a commitee now need our support for the next move forward, it is not going to be easy most of us knew that anyway. They will help in expanding the organisation to every fan and that is not going to be easy when you look at the comments on here.
It is so important that we have an independant voice that can help the club as well as lobby when it is needed. We ignore such organisations at our peril, its so very easy to sit back and assume that everything in the garden'"
Well said Ian.
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| It was definitely an intersting night.
I hope everyone does well, people who attended that first meeting need to be kept informed of what is going on though.
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| Quote ="Newsom 13"It was definitely an intersting night.
I hope everyone does well, people who attended that first meeting need to be kept informed of what is going on though.'"
Good point and we will have to come up with a way of doing just that and beyond just those who attended on Thursday night of course.
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"Good point and we will have to come up with a way of doing just that and beyond just those who attended on Thursday night of course.'"
Joe runs blackandwhites.co.uk... I also have access to it so if anything needs putting on there, you've got no problem.
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| Quote ="Newsom 13"Joe runs blackandwhites.co.uk... I also have access to it so if anything needs putting on there, you've got no problem.'"
Great...appreciate that, thanks.
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| Quote ="Newsom 13"Joe runs blackandwhites.co.uk... I also have access to it so if anything needs putting on there, you've got no problem.'"
Thanks Newson , think this will be a good starting point for us to ensure early communication to fans is sorted.
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