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| I wouldn’t still be surprised if it is walker and maybe barmby, he said I wouldn’t ask nick , maybe barmby asked him . And he said from hull , where does walker live , last I heard barmby lives kirkella way so he’s boy lying . Played Down more the other name that got mentioned I thought , was it young ! Hes a business man , good at deflecting questions is Pearson . If no new investment was imminent, why would he have all these bright ideas of top 5 , 3 marquee players etc . Last time we heard from him it was all doom and gloom and the covid loan . I expect it to happen soon .
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| I do kind of agree with the previous post.
While I wouldn't be surprised if nothing does come to fruition (just kind of get used to it when you're a Hull fan) I do think things will move a lot quicker than Pearson is making out.
Seems to be things all of a sudden in motion; coach gone, players rid of, new back room staff been added, all of which costs money that Pearson has spent ages telling us he hasn't got.
While it might take a while for things to confirmed and made official, there could be a chance that any new investors have already put it a small amount of money to just get things moving slightly.
I'm possibly clinging on to things a bit too much but I do wanna believe there are better things around the corner.
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| All just seems a mess. We had a DOR, then we didn't, now we need one again.
We're somehow spending £2.3M on the salary cap, on a championship team.
I also don't think he would be employing new staff , and paying players off, without the spectre of new funding.
All just seems a very hit or miss approach.
Still think the DOR will be James Webster.
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| He was definitely doing his best to be careful with his words on certain matters. Don't think it's what people wanted to hear but he probably needs to be cautious given how the fan base is reacting at the moment, let alone any legalities that might be involved.
Couple of things I may be reading too much into:
1. Said the investment is coming from outside of Hull. Later, whilst refusing to be drawn on the speculation over the rumoured investors, mentions one of them lives in York. Was that a possible slip?
2. Said that if the head coach is a domestic appointment it will be quick but if it's an overseas appointment it will take time. Then suggests Grix will be in charge for at least three games. So an overseas appointment then?
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| I found it underwhelming in the extreme.
He kept basically saying "I don't like us being challenged on whether we're spending at cap, what you should be asking us is why we've signed such dross" to which the obvious next question, and the question after that, is well why have you signed such dross? Who identified the signings? Why did we do that? Are they still employed? Why? He basically invited that line of questioning three times and Blunderside let it go every time, and at one point apologised for keeping him away from his Friday night bottle of wine.
He was also allowed to get away with saying the spirit in the dressing room is great and they're "all good boys", without anybody bringing up things like, I don't know, Ligi Sao getting sin binned every 15 minutes.
Car crash interview for me.
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| Certainly didn't seem unduly upset about shipping nearly fifty points every game. Just seemed odd to me generally.
Paul Anderson mentioned elsewhere as DOR.
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| Learnt very little from that. Don't particularly believe that nobody from Hull has approached wanting to buy or invest. Perhaps that was his way of getting them to increase an offer, or speed things up.
Several further questions should have been asked:
What is happening with Clarky?
Why has the strength and conditioning staff been weakened so much and is that going to be corrected?
Davidson still got a role, as he came with TS?
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| I’m hearing a name name from the past,
Agar. Has good contacts, and likes tea.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"I’m hearing a name name from the past,
Agar. Has good contacts, and likes tea.'"
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| Sounds like there is some sort of plan, but certainly not as thought out as I'd hoped.
Hope Pearson was being a bit coy on the interview.
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| Yes he was guarded. To me he firmly dismissed the rumoured investors. The York reference was where he last saw Mally Walker at the races - he was enjoying life & not interested in investing.
He made reference to the need for discretion - investors are fearful of social media backlash - pictures of homes etc being published & affecting individuals private lives - too true !
I Wasn't sure if the 20- 25% sat in the stands included Tex Hoy ?
He was clearly hacked off at how the salary cap had been spent ( wasted ) - surely as the CEO he would have a major say in that, or did he just back someone else's judgement ?? Uncle Tony, James Clark ?
He was hopeful of getting player(s) in before the Leeds game.
Recruitment would focus on 3 top signings - Scrum half, second row & centre ( my interpretation of that was Cam Scott is off to Wakey ).
He is in NO doubt that current form is trashing the finances even further, clearly sad that he cant get investment from the local community - was almost advertising for it, clearly happy to sell his shares - talked about minority or majority.
The saga continues.............................
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| Quote ="Dave K."Sounds like there is some sort of plan, but certainly not as thought out as I'd hoped.
Hope Pearson was being a bit coy on the interview.'"
He was let off lightly by the interviewer and all we really know is that a new DOR will be at the club next week.
Still believe any serious investor would want full control of the club and i didnt get the feeling Pearson is interested in that.
Its quite obvious now that Smiths position was quite rightly in doubt several weeks ago.
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| Just listening to it now, what he says just after 6 minutes is a key one, sounds like the decision to sack Smith has potential come from outside the club (potential investors) or the maybe players.
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| Listened to the full interview, from comments was expecting it to be much worse. My takeaways
Will definitely get some investment, looking for the right deal for him and the club
DOR next week, been in the pipeline for a while, be amazed if it isn't James Webster
New 7 is the priority (think we might get a short term one, maybe Russell) and look to bring one in from the NRL next year.
Fully expect a few changes to coaching staff, including much needed S&C.
At least 3 new players in the next few weeks.
3 new potential head coaches identified both here and the NRL, DOR working on it now and will make the decision.
Not one mention of James Clarke, which is unlike Pearson, guess he has either gone or will be taking on a more business/commercial role.
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| He states that we make a loss of £1m per year (as do all clubs). Why would anyone invest in the club (or rugby league) with no chance of financial return and does that mean any new money is via a "benefactor" rather than an "investor"?
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| Quote ="EtonStreetRifle"He states that we make a loss of £1m per year (as do all clubs). Why would anyone invest in the club (or rugby league) with no chance of financial return and does that mean any new money is via a "benefactor" rather than an "investor"?'"
Did you listen to it?
Reckons the club could make a profit and expects the club financiall situation to improve once the loans are paid off.
Might not be true though.
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| It's definitely part of the problem
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| Thought it was a fairly honest interview. He's living in the real world not Facebook world. Interesting few weeks coming up
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| The coaching wasn't 'THE' problem but it 100% was 'A' problem. One of seemingly many.
Regardless of how good/skilled our players are, there is no excuse for simply not getting them fit. We have a lot of defensive issues, but you will always have problems when the team aren't fit. It means we have no line speed. Half the players are still running back the 10 when the ball has been played. That's also down to having no idea of how to control a ruck, mainly due to Smith apparently not been a fan of 'the wrestle' (sure I've read that to be the case somewhere).
Apparently we only did a few short training sessions a week. Sounds like nowhere near enough time to work on fitness, defense, attacking structures, team cohesion, anything else.
I was happy when we got Smith in, thought he might turn us around. Now I'm happy he's gone. Fully understand the "but who else can do a better job" comments. That's what the club need to get right. But Smith in my opinion, while not been the only problem with the club, didn't do anything to improve us on the field.
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| Quote ="Theeaststander1"so quick conclusion from the interview
- there is 2 or 3 'potential' investors then in the same 10 minutes said these investors were ready to put money in (make of that what you will)
- working with a corporate brokerage in Leeds to sell his equity within the club to gain capitol
- new DOR (director of rugby within the next week announced Tuesday)
- NRL signings are put on hold until they find the right man, looking for an NRL 7 for next year (Adam said it was near impossible to find nrl pedigree at this stage)
- within the year they are hoping to be among the top 5 clubs in spend
- they want to get back to the dizzy heights of 3 marquees ^ within the next year
- costello new build stadium is not a viable option *pipe dream*
- lease w/ council and mkm stadium will be renewed for at least 4 years
- nu brown left PREDOMINANTLY on compassionate grounds, was his girlfriend who persuaded him to go back
- tex hoy wasnt part of tonys plans and had ample 'chances' to regain his place
- tony was upset when he was told he was leaving
- simon grix will be in the mix if he wins the next 3 on the bounce
- the changing room spirit is high .... reminded the fans it only 7 games in
- Adam got flustered when asked about the cap and said he doesn't know why people are so bothered about the input (spend) instead of the output (players)
- Hull FC are @ cap which is £2.35m (he offered any challenger to go to his office in person to see the paperwork themselves)
- Jake trueman and Carlos T are taking 20% of the cap space
- investment side, nobody from hull has come forward and hes tried his hand with the loyal sponsors but there isn't enough rich men within the city who want to invest
- mally walker, nick barmby, scott taylor = adam laughed and said no chance
- something he will regret saying = a direct quote 'i wouldnt want nick to part with his hard earned money alongside with mine in the current state' essentially saying i dont want my mates to lose money just some clown investor instead
- no signings will be ready before leeds
- 3 coaches in the running already'"
Love how rattled Pearson has you lot
Tuning in for the interview and writing up a synopsis for everyone
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| Quote ="Dave K."Did you listen to it?
Reckons the club could make a profit and expects the club financiall situation to improve once the loans are paid off.
Might not be true though.'"
I just think (however unlikely it may be) that we'd be better off with a benefactor who has an affinity to the club rather than private investment whose only interest is a financial return.
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| Having skin in the game means an investor is likely to want to ask strong questions of a lazy underperforming team and Head cosch
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| Quote ="EtonStreetRifle"I just think (however unlikely it may be) that we'd be better off with a benefactor who has an affinity to the club rather than private investment whose only interest is a financial return.'"
Potentially yes although you may get better decisions if the emotion is taken away
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| Richie myler DOR.
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