I thought you were being serious.

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Got to disagree with you about a minority wishing to stand, I would say most clubs would have a majority of fans wishing to stand, that's certainly the case at Headingley. Football fans have had all seater stadia forced onto them and the vast majority hate them. As a poster above said, properly policed standing areas will never be a problem. I've been going to Rugby and football for over 30 years and the only time i've felt unsafe on the terraces was at a semi final at Hillsborough a couple of years before the tragedy, read into that what you like. The biggest problem with all seater stadiums is that everything has to be planned in advance if you want to sit with friends, you can't just get a couple of lads turning up on the day and standing next to you like years gone by on the terraces. Another problem is if you get a total crettin sat next to you, if you're standing you just walk away, when you're allocated a seat you're stuck with them. God forbid you get the most annoying,moaning idiot who doesn't know a thing about the game sat behind you all season as a season ticket holder. I'm certainly glad the Carnegie Stand at Headingley included a standing area and the proposed new South Stand will be all terracing.

This meeting is about using them odd looking German standing/seats they have over there.
Meaning the KC's capacity will hardly change and shouldn't pose a big problem installing them.
Just the outlay vs the not much to gain £ scenario and of course the outdated Green Guide's policies.

Can't imagine terracing ever been allowed back from a football side of things

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Look stupid, but if it brings standing back then I'm all for it.

hope your comment about an over reaction is a joke, if not, I personally will never take any of your future comments seriously.

People may disagree with all seater stadiums, but nobody can deny that stadiums are safer places to watch sports than they were 25 years ago. Surely that's a good thing?

It was an over reaction, they went from one extreme to the other, instead of finding a safe middle ground.

total nonsense

Try telling that the families of the 96...

Where have I said the original stands where safe as they were?

In your opinion, not in mine and not in others.

You didn't. Your saying there was an over-reaction which is an utterly ridiculous thing to say.

It is not a ridiculous thing to say at all. They made small changes to start with (Removing fences, swing barriers around the pitch etc), then they found the simplest solution, which was to make stadiums all seaters thus meaning every fan in is allocated a seat. But the safe standing thing that is going on is just as safe and with numbering to stop over crowding/overselling.
They could have gone with that from the start but over reacted and said everyone must be seated.

If 96 was not enough, how many have to die at a game for it to be a reasonable reaction?

They found the [isafest[/i solution available [iat the time[/i. Hindsight is great, but in the aftermath of all those deaths the move to all seater stadia was entirely sensible and justified. The fact that other options have developed since that [imight[/i be as safe doesn't change that.

I will concede to that Kosh. Lack of imagination or more likely the overwhelming urge to rid stadia of standing probably pushed the all seaters into action. I am not sure even if someone had come up with the idea of safe standing at the time they would have even given it a second glance. That is why I say it was an over reaction and something like the image below would have been a very good compromise which would have been accepted by most people.

fully agree there
why go back to the bad old days

I think the standing areas in all the new R.L stadiums confirms pretty much what most people thought, a properly supervised, adequately built and maintained terraced stand is as safe as a seated area. What happened at Hillsborough was undoubtedly a terrible tragedy, but when the authorities banned standing at games it was a knee jerk reaction that a lot of people in hindsight can recognise.

Sorry but you can't compare standing at RL grounds to standing at soccer grounds. The crowds are smaller and better behaved so it's inherently safer. And as I've mentioned the decision to ban standing [ionly[/i looks odd in hindsight - at the time there were very few arguing against it as it made good sense.

Of course some standing is safer than seats

I'd rather stand on the sun than sit in the golf stand at CP

Would love to have a standing area at the KC.

Quite agree.

I'm more than happy with the KC Stadium as it is. Making part of it terracing would be a very poor move, IMO.

As they found at Langtree Park, fans huddled together in one area making it unsafe due to overcrowding, yes this is because the new Saints stadium is open to the elements (And Macmanus calls it the best sports stadium in the UK...LMFAO) but if fans are going to congregate in the middle sections which is normal behaviour this would not be acceptable from a health & safety POV.
Standing was great back at the Boulevard, but we've moved on and for some to say sports fans HATE sitting you are really out of touch.

Without millions been spent on changing the structure of the stand to increase capacity than if seated it makes ZERO sense whatsoever.
With reference to lack of atmosphere that is a complete red-herring, it is the fans that make that, not the stadium design..
The Bradford play-off game amongst many others must have been all a dream then.

We don't need it, personally don't want it & it'll never happen in the KC at least.

You are saying that these people died because they were standing. This isn't the case at all.

I don't see what is wrong with him saying that it's an over reaction to ban standing because 96 people died in one incident.
Is it an under reaction that we still allow flying after 9/11?

On Langtree, its clear the back of the stands should be clad, and possibly the terracing "bowed" slightly, i.e. more of a bowl, like th KC, thi swould give better sight lines on the terracing and would remove the central bunchiing effect

Not for me I prefer the all seater stadiums personally and I dont think it would improve atmosphere either. Whats going on on the pitch dictates that.