|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 30424 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| agar is going nowhere due to the board not having the nouse to see where the problems lie. So he hasn't got the greatest squad in the wrold, however does this stop him from getting the players to back each other up, to offload the ball, to make dummy runs, to run with some aggression instead of ambling into the opposition, to make decent interchange decisions? None of this will be resolved by the players we've brought in, it's down to how the players are being coached day in, day out. agar isn't good enough to be a SL coach and a couple of decent signings since the debacle at headingley doesn't suddenly change that
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3231 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Nov 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I don't think Agar is going anywhere and I'll be happy to see him stay - especially if we get rid of Jon Sharp. Agar did ok on his own after both Kear and then Peter Sharp left . I think Sharp is a malign influence. I believe he was responsible for signing Thorman and the fact that he apparently can't be dropped. I also think he is responsible for our boring tactic of five drives and a (crap) kick. He's a waste of space and money and lets get rid.
My worst nightmare would be Agar being sacked and replaced by Sharp.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10670 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2013 | Mar 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"I don't think Agar is going anywhere and I'll be happy to see him stay - especially if we get rid of Jon Sharp. Agar did ok on his own after both Kear and then Peter Sharp left . I think Sharp is a malign influence. I believe he was responsible for signing Thorman and the fact that he apparently can't be dropped. I also think he is responsible for our boring tactic of five drives and a (crap) kick. He's a waste of space and money and lets get rid.
My worst nightmare would be Agar being sacked and replaced by Sharp.'"
you believe wrong
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2408 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2012 | Sep 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="wolfie"you believe wrong'"
Agar Out!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10670 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2013 | Mar 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Agar Out!'"
doubt that very much
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 10000 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2020 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Agar is building a decent squad. He has a plan. This year is a bit of a transitional year, as there is only so much he could do with the contracts in place. There is a reason the board gave out the length of contracts they do. All signs are pointing to improvement.
Unlike Peter Sharp, who took us to a GF and then continually recruited poor players thereafter to take us to second-bottom. The board obviously lost faith and so did us all.
All signs point to improvement under Agar next year. Judge him at the back end of next season, then we don't have to consider whether to sack him or not. Just whether to renew his contract or not.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10670 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2013 | Mar 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="aldojh"I dont know what Agar is saying to these people, but they are all impressed with him!'"
could be the other players that hes told them were signing
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10670 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2013 | Mar 2013 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Wellsy13"Agar is building a decent squad. He has a plan. This year is a bit of a transitional year, as there is only so much he could do with the contracts in place. There is a reason the board gave out the length of contracts they do. All signs are pointing to improvement.
Unlike Peter Sharp, who took us to a GF and then continually recruited poor players thereafter to take us to second-bottom. The board obviously lost faith and so did us all.
All signs point to improvement under Agar next year. Judge him at the back end of next season, then we don't have to consider whether to sack him or not. Just whether to renew his contract or not.'"
good point
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2211 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Every one of you, without exception, is a moron. I am too! We should form a coaching co-operative!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4235 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2009 | Jan 1970 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="hull smallears"Not for me. Done nothing at Wigan IMO'"
Relegation fodder in 2006. 3 semi finals in the next 2 years. Nope. He's done nothing has he.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2024 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="Wellsy13"Agar is building a decent squad. He has a plan. This year is a bit of a transitional year, as there is only so much he could do with the contracts in place. There is a reason the board gave out the length of contracts they do. All signs are pointing to improvement.'"
All well and good, but a good coach would have been able to get more out of our current side than Agar has managed. Even with injuries.
While you can't argue with his recruitment, there are big questions about his team selections, use of interchanges, lack of tactics, and man management skills.
He's clearly going to be here next season. I expect us to improve somewhat due to the better recruitment, but I'm doubtful about our ability to really challenge unless Agar is capable of raising his game by several notches.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1301 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | Aug 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| His team next year, will judge him on that.
Looks to be putting together a decent team, sure we will be far better.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 37503 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2015 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Amazed how easily people are prepared to forget the abject farce of a coach that Agar is.
Have you all forgotten that we didn't use all of our subs against Leeds? or the many other cockups he has made.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 127 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2010 | Aug 2010 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="forevafaithful"to go who would you like as coach and who do you think realisticly would hull actually get??'"
its obvious it be sharps job with rule n hether in charge there go for someone close to home an in that case it be jon sharp
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 37503 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2015 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="john2k9fc1"its obvious it be sharps job with rule n hether in charge there go for someone close to home an in that case it be jon sharp'"
Cool, it must be talk like a Pirate day! hazzah!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2024 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="Standee"Amazed how easily people are prepared to forget the abject farce of a coach that Agar is.
Have you all forgotten that we didn't use all of our subs against Leeds? or the many other cockups he has made.'"
See my post a couple of places up.
I haven't forgotten the issues surrounding Agar, but I'm willing to give him credit for some good recruitment. I remain unconvinced by just about every other aspect of a coaches job, however.
I'm also willing to at least entertain the idea that maybe some of our issues have been down to players not performing as requested and that might be sorted out with the changes in play for next season.
ATEOTD it seems to me that like it or not we are going to have Agar as coach next season, so maybe people are just hoping for the best?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 37503 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2015 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Kosh"ATEOTD it seems to me that like it or not we are going to have Agar as coach next season, so maybe people are just hoping for the best?'"
Quite possibly, I remain of the opinion he isn't a top class coach so long as he has a hole in his Iestyn. And I tend to think the board agree, hence Sharp being at the club.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 25863 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="RB"Relegation fodder in 2006. 3 semi finals in the next 2 years. Nope. He's done nothing has he.'"
Wow not two semi finals, you are easily pleased!
During that time we have made the Grand final and the challenge cup final and still managed to sack a coach.
Noble has done an OK job at Wigan.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15980 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2016 | Jun 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Kosh"See my post a couple of places up.
I haven't forgotten the issues surrounding Agar, but I'm willing to give him credit for some good recruitment. I remain unconvinced by just about every other aspect of a coaches job, however.
I'm also willing to at least entertain the idea that maybe some of our issues have been down to players not performing as requested and that might be sorted out with the changes in play for next season.
ATEOTD it seems to me that like it or not we are going to have Agar as coach next season, so maybe people are just hoping for the best?'"
Thats my position really. I wasn't happy that we gave him a 2 and half year contract in the first place but once we did we have to see it though IMO and give him the chance to grow into the role. Obviously he will make mistakes along the way but I think the current recruitment seems to suggest he has learned what the problems are and is looking to sort them out. If the team are still playing the same sort of rugby when he has his players in place then that is the time to look to get rid by not renewing his contract.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 29160 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2012 | Jul 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Standee"Amazed how easily people are prepared to forget the abject farce of a coach that Agar is.
Have you all forgotten that we didn't use all of our subs against Leeds? or the many other cockups he has made.'"
And the 5 drive and a kick. No matter what hand he has been dealt this season it is no excuse for not trying something different.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15980 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2016 | Jun 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Standee"Quite possibly, I remain of the opinion he isn't a top class coach so long as he has a hole in his Iestyn. And I tend to think the board agree, hence Sharp being at the club.'"
If your using the board to back your arguement up by saying they have Sharp at the club because Agar cant hack it (meaning Sharp is a top coach), I will instantly disregard everything you say from now on.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2024 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="Standee"Quite possibly, I remain of the opinion he isn't a top class coach so long as he has a hole in his Iestyn. And I tend to think the board agree, hence Sharp being at the club.'"
If the board think that Sharp is the answer, we're [ireally[/i up sh[ii[/it creek.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 37503 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2015 | Oct 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Robbo4"If your using the board to back your arguement up by saying they have Sharp at the club because Agar cant hack it (meaning Sharp is a top coach), I will instantly disregard everything you say from now on.'"
Quote ="Kosh"If the board think that Sharp is the answer, we're [ireally[/i up sh[ii[/it creek.'"
Never said that I AGREE, but that is the reason Sharp was brought in, to give Agar assistance/guidance.
Sharp ticked two boxes, he was available and cheap.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 29160 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2012 | Jul 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Standee"Never said that I AGREE, but that is the reason Sharp was brought in, to give Agar assistance/guidance.
Sharp ticked two boxes, he was available and cheap.'"
I wish he would tick the 3rd, resignation!!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2024 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="Standee"Never said that I AGREE'"
I never for an instant thought that you did.
Quote ="Standee"Sharp ticked two boxes, he was available and cheap.'"
Aye. The same two boxes that Agar ticked in fact.
|
|
|
|
|