Did you not feel and hear the crowd. The tension and the pressure the players were under.
It must suck the life out of the players.
Get behind them ! There were kids out there today.
There’s a clear and obvious reason why Houghton is playing 9at the moment .. if some folk on here can’t understand why then you really need to think about it…
We are playing with a weakened pack !!!
Getting pinged at marker would be worse if Houghton was not there…

I feel like a parrot on here.
If folk think dropping Lane and moving Nu Brown to 9 with our current team then we’d be nil from 3.
The amount of defensive work these two bring.
Nu brown is playing for fc not the kiwis.
Wait till we get a more representative team on the pitch.

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i thought today, it showed we have zero structure or system in attack. Granted Tony Smith's hands are tied, but there's no excuse for ,not implementing a basic structure.
Defensively, we are appalling, the only reason I can think, that Houghton is constantly selected, is because he's the only player capable of tackling below the knees on a consistent basis. The only other 2 players who are prepared to bend their backs are currently injured which are Fash and Cator.
The opposition constantly make easy yardage, because too many players are grabbing at the chest area, as the old saying goes "Can't run without their legs".
Personally I would like to see Nu Brown at 9, move Houghton to 13. Hoy to 6.
If Smith was to leave, the only 2 in this country, I would consider is Wane & Rowley., as for another NRL unproven assistant, I don't have any confidence in the hierarchy to select a suitable replacement.

1) pitch didnt cut up too badly
2) It didnt rain

Nu Brown knew he was coming here to play as our half back when we signed him. Judging by most reactions, then he needs to start doing better at the opportunity he was given and accepted.

I just think he's not a natural half, not doubting his talent or willingness. I know most teams do it, but I don't think it helps him that we play with split halves.

Brown has probably started more games in the halves over his career than at hooker but the latter is clearly his better position.

Slept on it and watched the highlights this morning, I couldn't face watching the full game yet.

Wish Smith would have been honest about Hoy, no way based in performances should he have been dropped, particularly for Charles, he has looked our biggest threat at halfback before todays game, so either he has been a naughty boy or Smith is losing it. It's a real shame as with Hoy at 6, think he would have run riot with the space given by London and our offload game.

On to the game, I'm not sure the London halfbacks will kick that good again this season, they attacking kicks were near perfect.

Sao shouldn't have offloaded but shouldn't have been put in that position my Smith, he should have taken control and kicked, as someone has mentioned, Smith isn't the answer long term, but is a decent backup half and hooker.

Not much more to be said that already hasn't been said, there were some positives, but lots of negatives.

Last thing and this has annoyed me a bit, the mention on social media form Hull and other fans about us celebrating the win, we scored a last minute try to win our first game in months, we have 18 year on debut, a young kid scoring his first try, what do you expect the players to do, I'd have been more worried if they hadn't celebrated that try and win.

I get what you’re saying but I don’t feel the same. I enjoyed the contest today albeit at a lower standard but I see oases of hope in Morgan smith,Walker, Nu Brown, and the younger players coming through. Confidence is a galvanising thing and there can’t be much at the moment. I think this win is a start. I thought though no world beaters London were ok- structured hard working and spirited. I feel there are lots of nuances to come in the season and they will benefit us to kick on from. And I’m glad it’s TS who will harness it all. That said I wish we had 3 from 3!

I get what you’re saying but I don’t feel the same. I enjoyed the contest today albeit at a lower standard but I see oases of hope in Morgan smith,Walker, Nu Brown, and the younger players coming through. Confidence is a galvanising thing and there can’t be much at the moment. I think this win is a start. I thought though no world beaters London were ok- structured hard working and spirited. I feel there are lots of nuances to come in the season and they will benefit us to kick on from. And I’m glad it’s TS who will harness it all. That said I wish we had 3 from 3!

Don't know what it is about Okunbor. I think it's because looks like a lazy player and at times quite lost of the pitch. Doesn't run the ball in with much conviction. I've been defending him so far and I still think he has the physical attributes to become a decent player he just needs to work harder and apply himself more.
But then I look at the stats and he was our 4th highest tackler. Made more metres than Lane, Brown, Staveley. Average gain of 8 metres which isn't bad.
I think we need to give him the ball more because even when he runs lazily he can make good metres after contact.
First kick of the game we went high to him and he easily got above the defenders was just unlucky not to take the ball in. Not sure why we're not kicking to him more regular since he will have the height advantage against just about anybody he's lines up against. Maybe he's just not calling for the ball but other players are. I don't know.
Wouldn't be against trying him on the wing if the chance comes up but I think Mcintosh has started really well to be fair to him, and Martin and Tindall will be battling out the left wing spot.

Remember seeing him play stand off for Cronulla in his early days and thinking wow I wish we could sign someone like him.

Couldn’t believe it a few years later when he joined Featherstone in the championship.

Not sure if it’s the injuries, he has had some serious ones, but seems to have lost a bit of pace?

Better suited to hooker now I think.

Roll back the years on this forum and let’s do a score predictor

RL is a game of skill, brute force and confidence

We’re lacking all 3 currently

I’ll say Dragons 46-6

Said the same thing last night.

Every kick was inch perfect.

The one for Kershaw to score only had to be slightly harder and he would have knocked on or missed it. But it was bang on.

Just rewatched Storeys interception....Nu Brown really didn't fancy trying to chase back did he, hands on hips just watching it happen

With Tindall due back soon it will be good to have 2 young wingers with genuine pace on the flanks. Been waiting to see how quick Martin was in open field. He's quick.

If Carlos can get back to somewhere near his old form and Sutcliffe can put a string of games together then the 3/4 line doesn't look too bad.

Why was Severs unused might as well have put Balmforth on the bench and given him 20 minutes rested Danny. Walker pass gone backwards we stroll to a victory but we are constantly putting pressure on ourselves making stupid errors(Ligi's pass) and London showed us how to kick on the last plays yesterday, very poor all round apart from Ashworth, Smith, Staveley, Russell in parts, Martin and Bullock/Brown did ok.

Do wonder if that forward pass had been Wigan or Saints if it would have been given?

I know the ball travelled forward but I thought the rule was that if the ball travels backwards out of the hands, but momentum takes it forward, then it’s okay? This looked a classic case of that?

As someone who has pointed out Lane’s errors recently I want to give him a bit of praise. Thought he was much better and didn’t do anything wrong? Loved his pass inside to Ligi for Brown’s try.

I cannot understand having an unused substitute full stop.

It was a strange bench all round tbh.

That was exactly my thought when watching the replay on the big screen yesterday. The ball definitely went forward (in relation to the ground) but, as you say, it's the direction it's moving at the point of leaving the passer's hands that's key, and to me it looked like Walker released it backward but his own forward motion then projected the ball forward.

It looked to me like a perfect example of the much discussed (and usually misunderstood) 'momentum rule' which always got a weekly airing when Mike Stephenson was still commentating on Sky!

At best it was a 50/50 call which unfortunately didn't go our way, compounded by the fact that from that point onwards we completely lost our bearings! nearly paying the price. I'm still not sure how on earth we got out of jail yesterday. I didn't know what to think as I was leaving the ground; shock, relief, annoyance, perplexed, all of the above, same as everyone else I suspect. These are tough times, that's for sure.

Severs didnt come on
Think Old Tony is becoming the Joe Biden of Rugby League and forgot he was on the bench

Watched it again and still cant find a positive