One of the issues with quota players seems to be that the deals are done early in our season. So if Sam does get only a 1 year deal he has limited time to prove he's worthy of a longer contract before we start sniffing round the NRL for higher calibre players which we seem to be doing in the background continually anyway (no disrespect to Sam at all, but I'm talking about the Berrigan calibre here). With the quota dropping after next season, I'd be prioritising any 2 year deal available if I were him.

You could well be right. It's a difficult situation for the club though with the overseas spots reducing. If we had a mega overseas half back on tap for 2011 it would be fine although as you say some existing overseas may leave. Cusack for certain I would have thought.

Maybe the club have offered him a one year deal on a pittance so they don't get flak from the fans when he turns them down

im sure it will be an improvement on the money he was getting this year,was quite a good move by agar giving him a 1 year deal to prove himself,and thats what sam has done so he deserves a new contract.

look what happened by giving thorman a 1 year deal to prove his worth,wasnt good enough so hes now gone and been replaced by long, another good move by agar.

If you caught agar banging your missus you'd probably say he's made you realise how much you love her and that you've been neglecting her and it's all your fault, before shaking his hand and thanking him as he left.

like it,you should be on stage.

give credit were it is due mate.

what credit would that be then? you certainly can't give him any credit for being a good coach and man manager, who thoroughly interrogates the oppositions weakness and has a game plan to exploit them, because he's shown fook all of that this season.The guy is an incompetant waste of space who's simply not fit for the purpose he's employed for.

cool

got a way with words havent ye.

I'll give agar credit for having some bollox if he walks

show me this season where he's proved himself a competent super league coach? I don't care how much of a friend he is of yours or how much of a nice guy he is, he is employed by Hull FC as a professional coach and so far since he took over full time he's shown that he's not fit for that purpose.

Mate get ur Agar tinted glasses off and your head out of his ar$e

He can have no credit for Thorman on 1 year deal because he shouldn't have been here in the 1st place

As for Sam again no credit for me he brought him in and pitched him straight in against Huddersfield and then drops him a few games later, brings him back at Leeds away were Sam made a mistake from a drop out so Agar drops him again and then brings him back against Leeds aty home because we have no one else at the time to bring in, and then Sam came in and forced his hand

Look at how many players have gone backwards under him,does he get the best of the team does he f00k

the guy is f00king clueless and should f00k off now and let someone who is capable of doing the job to the best of there ability do it, instead of running to the board asking to do it himself and look how that has backfired

i cant see dowes going anywhere.

radford and tickle may call it a day, berrigan and long might not be up to another year in 2011, cusack and fitzgibbon may retire and that would leave us with lauaki and moa props! is their any coming through? maloney, freer, lynch and bell are rumoured to be off are shaw and adlous ready or even good enough?

if those 6 go and we only have 3 quota places left is there enough uk players good enough to fill those roles, either from inside the club or outside?

and then we've got
Mark Calderwood
Kirk Yeaman
Gareth Raynor
Ewan Dowes
Richard Whiting
Willie Manu
Danny Houghton
Craig Hall

all ooc

very difficult time for super league sides but changes that had to be made imo.

If I was Sam I would tell FC where to stick their contract (as long as he has something else lined up mind !)
I have heard from day one he hasnt been happy with the way he has been treated by our illustrious coach and after being told to sit in the corner and be quiet whilst we look elsewhere for a replacement for your quota spot you cant blame the kid for thinking boolloxx to this !!

A huge bite on the arcce this lad could give !!!

What credit?



Thorman was an unmitigated disaster of a signing that should never have been made.

The treatment of Moa has been little short of comically incompetent.

Credit!

If Sam signs and fulfils his potential he should be a straight swap for Cusack on next seasons quota.
Imo a lot rests on how Horney plays, if he doesn’t hit the highs of yesteryears we’ll need to find this elusive “top class” halfback.
Remembering that Longy is at the latter end of his career, this will still be the case in two years time.
There are also a few players with ‘options’ in regards of contract extensions.

In the next year or so the nucleus of the team could (should) be the likes of; Washbrook, Jack and Tom Briscoe, Hall, Houghton, Burnett, Whiting, Tansey, Lauaki, Turner, Horney, Yeaman, Long, O'Meley, Moa? Berrigan? Fitz?
One thing is for sure there's going to be a lot of players coming and going over the next few seasons.
I suppose only time will tell whether the club/Agar has done the right thing.

Beat me to it.

I simply cannot believe that we ask a lad to prove himself for a contract. He does just that, and in the process becomes a firm favourite with the fans. We then piddle about like this.

I don't doubt we are not doing it lightly and are looking at a big name signing. It would have to be a big name otherwise get Moa signed.

Biggest mistake was extending Cusack's contract so early. We wouldn't be in this position now

dobbins are after houghton and hall

Do you think they would jump ship to the dobbins if things next season replicate this season?

Old news.

Up to us to keep hold of them then.

May be old news but one of their centres and their hooker are OOC next season so 1st team spots beckon. Given the opportunity would you rather work under morgan or agar?

i can see houghton and hall going to rovers because rovers will offer big money and just face it hull wont offer them big money because hull wont see them as big enough players to warrent big money.

Cant see Houghton wanting to go as back up to Hodgson

i agree,but we needed someone who could lead us around the park,agar and the club thought he was the right guy but its now been proven he wasnt,what would of happened if hed signed him on a longer deal we would be stuck with him, who else was available at the time?

Stephen Hawkins was available and would have done a better job

if we had not signed anybody at the time people would of being going mental. We signed soemone, it didnt work out, we got rid. I just dont see the problem.. Moaners moaning for moaning sake