And Ryan Bailey has more medals and has GB appearances but is still just an above average performer..
Yeaman has done alright in spits and spats, a couple of seasons he was on fire, 2011 was good as well but at the end of the day right now & for the last 2.5 seasons he isn't good enough for a side that has aspirations of top 4, he wouldn't get a starting place in any of the top 8 sides at this moment in time.

His try return over a 13 years is 157 from 305, and his record of achievements as listed will be matched by few centres in the competition over their careers outside teams in the top 2. That's not speculation, it's a matter of fact. As to his current form or lack thereof, it's pretty clear to me that neither Crooks nor Arundel have warranted selection ahead of him in the first few games. If Sa comes in, he'll get picked, leaving Yeaman and Crooks to fight for the other centre spot. Whiting's days in the centres are over, so given the options and early season performances of the 3 centres at the club I'm not sure why people are mithering about Yeaman getting a game.

If you think I'm making a pro-Yeaman argument then you're barking up the wrong tree. I've been calling for him to be replaced for years. But there's no point replacing him with someone unless they're an upgrade, and right now it doesn't look like Arundel would be.

Exactly how I see it!
Had a mare against widnes and was called to be dropped, but coach publicly chastised him and following game was great! 1 thing about yeaman is he cares and you can see it in him when he knows he's made and error or had a bad one. You also know he'll make up for it or try his hardest the following week or even within a game! I'll always be happy to see that in my team unless as been said there's a better option, which there hasn't been!!

Yeaman hasn't been 'great' for a while. He's OK. Seems like a great bloke, but bang average as an SL standard centre.

I was told recently Kirk he has not been well and has had a stomach problem which has not been well publicised. Although he is now getting treatment (or was last I heard) I think we should cut him some slack. He's black n white through and through and still one of the best defenders at the club.

This season, if our right side had defended as well as our left side then we'd be unbeaten. Apart from the Widnes debacle. Obviously.

I know this is a transitional season and that we need to be trying out replacements for our older players but we still need to be winning games so that we have the luxury of trying people out. For me, Yeaman plays until we fix our defence as we can't afford to leak tries on both edges.

Exactly right.

Well I'll ignore all the amateur coaches on here and rely on Radders to pick the team. If he thinks Yeamo is worth a place then that's good enough for me.

quite right too. How dare fans have an opinion on team selection.

There's pretty much only been one 'amateur coach' calling for Yeaman to be dropped. Most everyone else agrees he's the best option at the moment, regardless of their opinion of him as a player.

If that is referring to me you have obviously failed to read and understand what I've written.
No-where have I said he (KY) should be dropped, I've said we should have got rid 2 seasons back, that Turner would have been the better option to keep, I've said Radford should be applying the same level of consistancy in picking/dropping players and that he won't be moving Yeaman either from the first 17 (certainly not for Arundal) or from the club..hope that makes my opinions clear.

I now have 'Stuck in the middle with you' going round my head thanks to this thread title

And in the last 5 SL seasons he has scored 56 tries, that coincided with having Manu on that flank for 4 of them too, helped with a big glob of 21 tries in 2011, take that out and you have an average of 9 tries per season in 4 of the last 5 years.
HTH
Oh and Jordan Turner on our weaker flank..28 SL tries in the 3 seasons he was with us starting as a 21yr old..

No.

Why, because I devalued MrsBarista's bigging up of Yeaman based on his try scoring record..haha, why bother responding if you've nothing useful to add..lol


Or maybe it was because you can't grasp the concept of the opinions I've put forward..I can help you if you like..only have to ask..don't be embaressed

You make a fool of yourself, and then become abusive (again).

I'm sure it's been said, but you don't seem to be taking it in, Turner didn't want to stay at Hull.

Also if you read the thread about him on the Saints board, most of them aren't too taken up with him.

I thought he was another player who looked good against the poorer teams, but got found out against the top sides.

If you read back, you'll see my points were that of the three centres at the club, there can be no outrage at the selection of Yeaman ahead of either Crooks or Arundel because none have been any good this year. However, experience and career wise Yeaman's the best of an underwhelming bunch. Sa coming in spells the end for Arundel anyway, but where's the evidence Arundel's performances have been so compelling this year they should have forced Radford's hand? In your own time...

If you're seeking comparison with Turner on the basis of performance at a similar age, which I assume you're inviting by specifically referencing Turner's age as some sort of inhibiting factor, that'd be 52 tries (excluding the cup) for Yeaman in 3 seasons starting as a 21 year old. It would probably have been more had he not had a long injury in 2006 when he was rattling up braces and hat-tricks for fun. And in that period he won 1 Dream Team pick, 2 appearances for GB in Australia, 2 major finals and a CC winners medal. The reality is that Yeaman's career stats in Hull terms, even with the heavy weighting towards the first half of it, is undeniably stellar. In that context, and with the choice of Arundel (who'd been earmarked for the exit) and Crooks (clearly low on confidence), I personally understand why Radford has persisted with Yeaman.

I like Turner and Saints a lot. But to match Yeaman's stats by the age of 30 he'll need to get his international career going, get picked in the Dream Team twice, get to 4 major finals, win one and score 22 tries a season. Big ask over the next 4 and a bit years.

Cracking post on a very good servant to our club.

A fool eh, I'm not sure I understand, you'll need to explain that too me with workings out. and me abusive..oh please, again explain how?

I've nothing personal against Yeaman, I'd rather he was consistantly good every week every season, but the plain fact is he isn't and never has been. There are as I have pointed out in my earlier posts aspects of his game that can be excellent & his defensive capabilities are clear and obviously he can and has scored some tries. But he is lazy, he drifts out of games, he still can't pass for tofee, he still makes the same misjudments that he was making 10 + years ago, his overall season performances over the last few years (barring 2011) have being bang average for someone whom has international honours.
IMHO he has had preferential treatment compared to others, if you don't want to accept that that's fine.
But it is the abusive nature of many of the posters on here that are well out of line with how they respond to posts that they don't agree with and end up getting nasty and in some instances personal that mean fewer and fewer people bother to actually write something that has proven merit for fear of being lampasted by the sad narrow minded few on the B&W forum.
Personally I don't give a stuff, it's an open forum and I don't break the rules unlike some, it shows a certain lack of class with the way posters respond as I myself have resorted to in my last post (to prove a point)

Shame because when we're rocking it's brilliant, the bonhomme between the fans is awesome, however when we aren't and posters have a differing viewpoint and try to back that up using what is clearly in front to see to make their point others just have to bash those posters down because they don't like it and/or refuse to see the facts.
This thread is a prime example..
I'll be doing my 300+ mile round trip on the 4th or 9th to support my team so I hope you lot are too..
COYH

You're avoiding the key point here, again. Our three centres have been poor so far this year, that's obvious from watching but even more so when looking at the stats - loads of missed tackles and errors between them - so little wonder we're looking at Sa. But where is the overwhelming evidence that Arundel merits a place ahead of Yeaman? You've said yourself you "think he has potential", but a Radford has to balance threat with ball in hand vs proven defensive experience. With a fair few injuries and lack of experience in our back 5, I don't see the need for uproar at Arundel's non-selection, less to attribute it to Radford selecting the squad on a "mates first" basis. But I think most would agree the best outcome would be Crooks recapturing his confidence and form, and partnering Lineham again later in the year, and Sa and the bin man forming a partnership on the other side.

...here I am stuck in the middle with [iwho[/i
Hopefully it'll be Crooks and Sa.
Yeaman's been good , wholehearted , loyal and is rightly a bit of a local hero. He's never been the finished article though because of his lack of that bit of skill and isn't helped by him not being the brightest player in the world. Unfortunately unlike some players he hasn't balanced out his loss of pace as he's got older with better use of his head and experience. He just plays today the same way he always has , isn't going to get better and must surely just be keeping the spot warm until Sa or someone else comes in.

I can see Yeamo been played in the back row when Sa & Crooks are our first choice centres.

Not sure about that. Ellis, Tuson, Thompson, Hadley, Whiting all ahead of him IMO.