We're not talking about who partners Long though, are we? Long is pretty much sure to be out for the next game at least. I agree that Turner doesn't look like he has the skills either, but the only other options IMO would be Hall or Whiting. I think either of them would be better at 6 than Washy in terms of skills and, in Hall's case at least, pace. Trouble is that means moving around half the side to accommodate the switch.

No easy solution TBH. We're still short of creative players to cover the halves.

Looks good to me

I would agree with this but possibly think Radders may be a doubt as he seemed to take a hefty knock late on.

Thought we were talking about Washy playing 6? Anyway whilst Long is out Tansey has to play 7 no question. I don't like moving him as he has done superbly at fb but we need his creativity, spark, enthusiasm and pace in the middle of the pitch. It's a question of who he plays with, if fit then I would play Horne. If not fit then it's Whiting, Turner, Washy or Hall.

Whiting - Needed for FB is Tansey plays 7.
Hall - Prefer to see him play centre.
Washy - Definately an option and will be better for having had a game now.
Turner - Not sure he is a 6 but maybe worth a gamble, not sure Agar will be brave enough.

Good question..But surely Agar must throw caution to the wind or he could pay the price heavily!

I slight muscle tear, he wanted to play but was given the week off to avoid worsening the injury.

Really hope he's back for Friday. We need him.

Post match interview with Agar suggested he will be (seemed he could of played yesterday but wasn't risked - so why play Horne strapped up?!!!!)

Agar now needs to prove that he IS a decent coach after all and drop underperforming players, utilising this "strenght in depth" that he keeps talking about. How many times does Horne have to show us all that he is NOT a scrum half ?? He is actually a very ordinary SO who is supposed to be showing us all that he is over his problems of the last two seasons but alas, for me, he is not even a shadow of his former self and has to be dropped from the 17.

Washbrook will make a decent 13 but is not, and never will be, anymore than a below average halfback.

For me, Tansey and Turner should be 6 and 7 against the Quins and Moa has to be given a bench spot. If Agar has got any ability/balls, he needs to show it NOW.

Whiting
Calderwood
Hall
Yeaman
Briscoe
Turner
Tansey
O'Meley
Berrigan
Radford
Tickle
Manu
Fitz

Dowes/Yak
Moa
Lauaki
Houghton

Tansey
Calderwood
Briscoe
Yeaman
Hall
Turner
Horne( No one else available)
Dowes
Berrigan
O'Meley
Tickle
Manu
Fitzgibbon
Subs
Washbrook
Moa
Cusack
Lauaki
No need for Houghton on the bench at all.

id have that team aswell

that would be my preferred starting line up against quins, doubt we will see it though, stevo got it right about horney when we played saints, he (horne) isn't a leader or organiser, when paired with long he was able to play his natural game

Agar will not pick that 17. He doesn't seem to have the ability/vision/courage to make the changes that are necessary. What Moa and Turner have done wrong I just don't know ? And R Horne seems to be exempt from having to justify his place with performances on the pitch.

Agree with that..Can you e-mail it to Agar

Horne has, quite rightly IMO, been given a run this season to see if he's overcome the problems that dogged him last season. What will be interesting is what happens now that it seems he is either not fit or hasn't overcome those problems.

I could live with that. Might be tempted with Washy on the bench instead of Houghton.

Of course he was correct to give Horne the opportunity to prove himself after his recent problems. The shirt was rightly his to lose but, for whatever reason, he hasn't done enough to keep the shirt and RA, whether he likes it or not, has to do something about it.

Spot on......we have depth now and Agar must use to prove he is a good coach...if not it will look as though he hasnt got a pair to drop the big names.

A major problem was last season all the attention was on Thorman, Horne never played well either. Now that is what worries me Agar must have seen that, unless because he was given a 3 year (very healthy) deal, they just hoped he would find his form!! worrying.

I won't start another thread, but is it going to be the usual arrangement, with regards to the "Away" stand being closed, on Friday night?

Cheers.

Was open last season and you brought hell of a support with you....

I thought the 3000 tickets for local rugby teams where for the North Stand?

It will be closed but don't worry because the club has opened a third dug-out for fans.

the north stand is the allocated away stand, though the club are giving away free tickets to juniour rugby clubs in and around hull for the quins game, so maybe worthwhile sticking to the west

We have already given our youngster them and told them it is in the North Stand