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| Quote ="kathy kirk"Wow I was waiting - Sharia Law - chop of their hands - Stone the women - Chop off anything!! Is it any different to Nazis herding Jews into Gas Chambers I think not - Tell them as it is'"
Where is your proof that any BNP member is a nazi? Evidence please...if not......
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| Quote ="denbo63"I don't really think you're stupid Cam. You have at least been receptive and given thought to your replies which you honestly believe.
But in this democracy.......where the BNP are fascists etc,,,denying free speech etc..... what exactly were the UAF brigade doing outside the BBC wanting to deny Griffin speaking. They can't have it all ways surely?
Or is that different?'"
Only asking this because Anarchists are to the left and their interest is to see government collapse and the 'people take control'.
And that's not a dangerous concept?
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| (does anybody else get the feeling that Denbo is being harassed the same way Dick Griffin was lastnight!)
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| I used to employ some Poles. Gutted when they went home. The best workers I've ever had
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| My front garden is full of leaves what a
My car gets covered in purple bird
My wife does not understand me
My fridge is empty
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| CBA reading the thread, but it was a pretty terrible show. Why they felt the need to construct a (poorly) organised attack against Griffin, I don't know. It was so narrowly focused on issues on which Griffin's views were hardly going to be revelatory to the general public that it was bereft of purpose. It should have just been a normal episode, with a much wider range of topics, and the sneering, racist would have shown himself up much more than the weak panel managed to.
As it was, he won't have convinced anyone who wasn't already certain what to think that he's an odious prick and he might well have gained sympathy from some who will have seen him as the underdog/target of bullying. A pity because it was a real opportunity to demolish the BNP and ensure that they wouldn't get votes from disillusioned supporters of others parties.
Luckily, Griffin is a terrible orator and leader. With someone with a little more intelligence in charge (probably not going to happen, as most with even a little more intelligence wouldn't go near them or their views), they could be a very dangerous group. Fortunately, it looks like the country is recovering enough that their scaremongering and spreading of hate won't be too effective by the time of the next election.
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| Quote ="denbo63"I don't really think you're stupid Cam. You have at least been receptive and given thought to your replies which you honestly believe.
But in this democracy.......where the BNP are fascists etc,,,denying free speech etc..... what exactly were the UAF brigade doing outside the BBC wanting to deny Griffin speaking. They can't have it all ways surely?
Or is that different?'"
As a point - if you don't believe something don't say it - really simple idea
I'm all for reedom of speech - this allows people to listen to opinions and views and form their view.
So if you agree in Democracy and freedom of speach does this mean that you are Ok with 'people' preaching the values of Sharia Law... would be very interested in your view
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| Quote ="denbo63"Sorry Kathy I do. And he would be right. Any kind of mass deportation would be a minefield and totally stupid and impracticle. Just puzzled where I've apparently said that or said I agreed with such a proposition.....'"
Apologies if I have misundertood anything - I may have got to exited by the debate and read what you said wrongly
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| Quote ="denbo63"Like this.....
YOU HAVE TO LOVE HIM....A MUST READ...READ THIS! HE MADE THIS SPEECH IN NEW YORK .
The Plan!
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Robin Williams, wearing a shirt that says 'I love New York ' in Arabic.
You gotta love Robin Williams........Even if he's nuts! Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.
Robin Williams' plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!)
'I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan.'
1) 'The US / UK /AUSTRALIA will apologize to the world for our 'interference' in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those '
good 'ole' boys', we will never 'interfere' again.
2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany , South Korea , the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at
our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.
3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are from. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.
4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.
5) No foreign 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a 'D' and it's back home baby.
6) The US /UK / Australia will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.
7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't
like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)
If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not 'interfere.' They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.
9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.
10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH......learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?
'The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?' ''"
Repeat it?, GODS UNDERTAKER posted it a few pages back, mind, he claimed authorship of it aswell.
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| Incidentally, I would be interested to hear anyone's definition of an indigenous British person. Because I sure as hell haven't a clue.
Griffin last night was waffling about being true to the people here 17000 years ago - anyone have an idea as to whom he was referring?
One thing I do know - when you mix light of all different colours together you get white light.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Incidentally, I would be interested to hear anyone's definition of an indigenous British person. Because I sure as hell haven't a clue.
Griffin last night was waffling about being true to the people here 17000 years ago - anyone have an idea as to whom he was referring?
One thing I do know - when you mix light of all different colours together you get white light.'"
Stanley Gene?
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| Thought everyone might remember this from a few weeks back which was quite interesting yet very relevant to this whole thread here .
You may recall from the tabloids a little while ago Michael Richards (better known as Kramer from US TV show Sienfeld made this very very important speech whilst standing in court accused of making a racial comment during one of his stand up comedy shows in New York in August.
He said “ There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Arabic Americans, Asian Americans etc and there are simple old fashioned Americans which are called by all those above Cracker, Honkey , white trash, Caveman etc yet that’s ok and not considered racist??
BUT if I called one of those a n*****r, Sand Jockey, Towel head, Beaner, Gook, Chink, Camel Daddy or anything similar it iS racist ?? is that correct or right?? Is that a rule for one but not the other??
The black office of equality in America stated in their annual address to Congress that whites are the biggest committer of offences against Black people in the USA yet government and local police statistics show that Harlem and similar Black Ghetto areas across America are the worst areas for Crime, murder and drug related crime.
America has Martin Luther King day, A United Negro college fund, A black history month in schools, Cesar chavez Day, Hashoa, Ma,uled al Nabi , NAACP etc etc but if white Americans were to hold a White pride day it would be labelled a fascist function or a white history month in schools it would be racist..
Why are foreign Nationals and non whites allowed to have associations, clubs and organisations to advance their creeds and colours yet if we had a white equivalent it is racist??
There is a black & Hispanic chamber of commerce yet no White equivalent why is that??
No whites are allowed in the black miss America Pageant yet all colours are allowed into the Miss America show, if we had a white college fund that paid only white students it would be a fascist organisation why is that ??? alongside the 60 Black only funded colleges in the uSA that do not allow whites through their doors now isn’t that something we all recall from the days of civil rights & Martin Luther King or am I miss guided here??
There was a million black man march which was marching for its race that saw the crime rate soar in the area by 570% yet if there was a million white man march it would be seen as a anti civil rights issue …
People should be proud to be black, yellow orange or what ever colour they are it matters not to me and you should be proud to announce it but surely also then whites should not live under the banner of fear if they announce they are proud to be white should they??
So can you explain to me why only white people are racist?? Why does no one complain when Chris Rock or similar talented black comedians make white jokes or similar remarks , to me its just plain racism but a racism that no one dare yet touch upon as no one is strong enough to tackle the back lash from the society we live in which is blatantly one sided towards any colour or race other than whites!!…
I shall finish now by stating that unless I am uninformed it isn’t yet illegal to be white but it is getting close, and I shall now go home with BLACK wife of 16 years to my three half white half black children and continue living together as Martin luther King wanted side by side in harmony …
He got a standing ovation in the court for that and the case was thrown out, make a few good points I think !!
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Repeat it?, GODS UNDERTAKER posted it a few pages back, mind, he claimed authorship of it aswell.'"
never said i was the author but did say it was a good plan to which I added a few bits I thought was relevant, best read back sir but isnt that a deposition of blocking free speach !! whole point on this thread i believe!!
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| Quote ="cod'ead"I'm still at a loss as to how a tiny minority of the 2.7% that makes up the Muslim population in the UK, can cause any but the most paranoid, concern about this country's future'"
Because the Daily Mail features an ill-informed rant about that tiny minority on just about every single day of the week, leading those of feeble mind to believe that there's a muslim on every street corner waiting to detonate his backpack?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Because the Daily Mail features an ill-informed rant about that tiny minority on just about every single day of the week, leading those of feeble mind to believe that there's a muslim on every street corner waiting to detonate his backpack?'"
well said, too true
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"
Well said Denbo !!!!! Unfortunately, you're not allowed to have concerns about the future of your country. You're not allowed to question why some people are here when they clearly detest us, our country and our lifestyle. You're not allowed to agree with some (not all) of what Nick griffin says. You're not allowed to argue with all these politically correct sheep who jump onto the nearest and easiest bandwagon.
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Once again, opposing the BNP is not a case of "political correctness" or "bandwagon jumping".
Griffin can throw in a populist comment but it doesn't mean he is any less a fascist.
The sight of him on Thursday wearing a poppy turned my stomach, given the fact that it's a symbol of the fallen in wars - including British and Commonwealth men and women who died fighting fascism in Germany. The war of which Nick Griffin said "Adolf went a bit too far."
If you are concerned with immigration and the main political parties do not provide the policies you support then why not turn to UKIP rather than a fascist party?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Once again, opposing the BNP is not a case of "political correctness" or "bandwagon jumping".
Griffin can throw in a populist comment but it doesn't mean he is any less a fascist.
The sight of him on Thursday wearing a poppy turned my stomach, given the fact that it's a symbol of the fallen in wars - including British and Commonwealth men and women who died fighting fascism in Germany. The war of which Nick Griffin said "Adolf went a bit too far."
If you are concerned with immigration and the main political parties do not provide the policies you support then why not turn to UKIP rather than a fascist party?'"
I have actually voted UKIP in the past. I agree with some of their opinions (not all), just as I agree with some of the BNP's (not all).
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I have actually voted UKIP in the past. I agree with some of their opinions (not all), just as I agree with some of the BNP's (not all).'"
and thats the beauty of living here in the uk we have that choice pal
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"and thats the beauty of living here in the uk we have that choice pal'"
I totally agree mate !!!
That freedom of choice and the ability to question our government's policies with regard to immigration etc. seem to stir up a hell of a lot of people who then start quoting political correctness and labelling people with the "R" word.
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| Many people in Britain are "Realists" not "Rascists" .
They can see that immigration is out of control . Many migrants are coming to the UK to claim off our welfare state. These people are economic migrants and in no way bring anything to British Society .
Far right parties like the BNP feed off this and are now trying to change their image as the Party for the White working class.
In truth it is the White working class who are at fault . How many of them are sponging off the State ? We have a 3rd of 4th generation of "White" trash who have never worked and will never contribute anything.
Many legal migrants have come across to the UK to do the jobs that our own professional unemployed won`t do.
There is room in Britain for a Nationalist party but that is not the Fascist BNP. Our fore Fathers fought and died against the threat of National Socialism that the BNP peddle.
Many non Whites are proud to be British . They fought and died in both world wars. They are fighting in Afghanistan.
The BNP oppose ex Gurkhas being given British residency after serving the Crown .
Griffin was shown up for being the idiot he is. An ex National Front neo Nazi scumbag.
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