On what?

That Hull did all they could for him to be a success. You could argue that if he does succeed anywhere else, there must have been something we missed. Likewise, it could just be a coincidence of timing or the kick up the backside of being released that triggers any potential improvement. The only person who'll ever know for sure if he could have done better at Hull and how/why is Craig Hall himself.

Maybe.

He has been playing in the first team since 2007, so 4 years is a considerable amount of time to develop his playing at Super League level.

Time will tell anyway!

Dowes has had 8 and Radford 9 and we're still awaiting their development, and they've NEVER shown the glimpses of brilliance that Hall did.

Different players and roles, though. I agree with what you're saying in a way, but they also haven't made the blunders that Hall did. Swings and roundabouts.

Radford makes more tackles in a game than Hall does in a season.

Trying to compare forwards and backs is a non starter.

Don't really rate Cockayne, but Barrymore as CEO. Now that is a superb move by the club.

He'll renew alright, but trust me when I say we are all getting a little riled.

Sorry, did you miss expro's so called prank with the HDM and blunderside? You know, the one where he told his little clique about it. I even hear there were some mods involved. Either there is a clique or he was lying about others knowing.

As for the rumour then it's just that isn't it. No point in people getting upset over rumours unless they're true.

I miss you Peg the red!!

just been told cas are thinking over an offer from fc for both westerman and chase.a friend who lives in cas has text me saying this.both have stated that they want to leave.

£200k?

he didn't know how much.all he said was that they have told the club they wish to leave and are both willing to come to fc!! westerman is still young,how old is chase?

If we get Chase, do we ditch Tansey and put Horne to FB?

Really hope so but will believe it when its announced




Westerman's 20, Chase is 24 so both still young.

both would be good but until pens put to paper its pie in the sky. i hate these rumours,they get you full of hope only to fall flat but im compelled to read em all n hope for the best

the lad who told me is not amused!!! he did say that westerman hasn't really performed to what they know he can for over a year,and that chase would be the one they would be unhappy over being allowed to go.i agree with what you say though,as until they are actually confirmed no-one really knows,but he does seem quite certain it's happening.

Ooh, a far better quality rumour than Bailey. Best one since Greenshields in fact. I love Chase and behind a decent pack I think he'd be great. Won't happen but as rumours go at least this one is something I'd love to happen.

the lad who told me is a nice kid,and is usually not far wrong!!! my only fear,if you like,is can we fit both in the salary cap?i realise players have left,hall,cusack,calders,raynor(?),king(?),etc,but improved deals for others and sharp,might leave it tight.

These rumours get more and more far fetched, i doubt theres little chance of one coming let alone both, plus i can`t see us offering the amount of cash it would take for Cas to even consider letting them leave.

The thing about rumours is soonr or later one will be right. This would be amazing but it aint gonna happen! We would have to release someone to finance it!

If we get Chase, thats the hooking rotation sorted