We're up to the cap with all the renewals

Need to make a couple of tough decisions then, look to loan out a few young lads, there are ways to do it ifvthe right player is available

Agree with all that Dave K
Being ruthless, I’d have lost Tuli, Washy and one of Mini / Manu.
Paea just not done it either. I know that they’re good pros, but next year is going to be a season too far for some of them.
Attacking structures need tweaking as well.
Like I said earlier, teams have worked us out and we’ve lost Ellis, Watts and Fonua who helped us play the power game.

I'd also like to sell Abdul, think its the best move for us and him

Can’t see Abdul being at the club long term. Just not a good fit for both parties.
Thing is, AP isn’t daft. He won’t be happy unless we’re competing at the top end.

Anyone else think Green might go? Nothing to base it on, just that again we're not getting a good return appearance wise, made more acute by the loss this term of Watts going and Bowden's injury. Effectively we've had Taylor, Paea off the bench and Masi as consistent props - not enough at this level.

He's missed about thirty games in the last three season, not far off a third of all games.

Micky Paea has been disappointing this year, Matongo is improving but lacks aggression.

… he's no worse than plenty of others this season who could equally be accused of missing too many games.

I though Paea had a good game last night.

Paea played well last night but hasn't done enough this season. Certainly not the player he was. Agree about Matongo, he has the physical attributes to be a good prop in the future but seems to lack confidence and aggression.

How’s the saying go? - “Better to release a player a year too early rather than a year too late”

Don’t think major changes are required as we’ve rarely had our first 17 on the pitch at the same time.

What we have lacked for a couple of seasons now though is impact off the bench.

That and tweaks to the attacking structures.

also thought paea had a good game, was our best prop for me, masi will get better next hopefully, bienik is our wild card, could be anything, if his hamstring isn't to bad might even see him this year?

I’m not rushing to judge the younger players, as they’ve all been thrown in at the same time. We haven’t been able to bring them in in a controlled way.

… Kelly and Connor didn't play last night, our 2 most creative players.

Our attack is bound to suffer when they're missing, by how much is obviously open to debate.

also thought lane had his best game, kid ran hard and did dent the line,

Let's not expect too much of Bienek too soon. He's two years younger than Matongo and Fash. He might get the odd game next year (hopefully not because of an injury crisis) but he's probably a couple of years off being a first teamer. His you tube video is impressive but that's against lower league opposition rather than the likes of Amor, Flower, Murdoch-Masila etc.

Need 2 new back rowers who don’t have cows tits for hands. Can’t believe we’ve signed up Mini and Washy. Was all for keeping Manu earlier in season but he’s hardly played and when he has he’s been average at best.

Keeping them on sentiment by looks of it. Young kids not stepping up, be surprised if one of the current lot become a starting 13 player.

Who's available though? The market for decent forwards has dried right up.

I reckon Jordan Lane will make it as an SL player, and Cameron Scott could make a move to second row and do well. He's not got the pace for centre.

Australia, quota spots available if we didn’t keep Manu or Mini. Earlier in season Greenwood, Whitley, Sene Lefao all ooc, Jones probably available for a small fee.

We need more than just making it, we need them to become starters. Do agree on Scott though, he’ll be a back rower.

don't shoot the messenger but heard a rumour/story today saying radders is off to wigan and its caused unrest in the dressing room

good one as far as rumours go

Dont believe a word of it.
Radford wouldnt know what to do with a squad thats full of pace

Look im not in the Radford out brigade but questions to a degree can and should be asked. Why is brutality given out to youngsters but senior players can get away with bad performances ? Why haven't we replaced Ellis and Watts ?

Mini,Manu and Washbrook given extensions without performing to a high level this season. Defence as a whole not being good enough conceding 20 points at home to a side outside the 8 is considered a good effort.

I believe or want to believe Radford can change this around but questions should be asked.

Injuries aside I think alot of complacency and arrogance has bit the whole squad as a whole this season.

We couldn't get over the line the last 2 seasons to a grand final, so why we think we dont need any new faces is beyond me.

Twenty four hours and six pages later and only Tarquin agrees with you



Almost every Hull fan knows that only an idiot would want Radford replacing at the end of this season.

I don't agree with people wanting him out now, but he has an awful lot of work to do in the off season to get us on track again. There aren't very many (if any) positives to take from the last couple of months. We need a major rethink on how we go about things, because we dont have the players to go down the brute force and ignorance route anymore, amd I don't really want us to anyway.

And I agree with you.