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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Long term no, but I dont see any benefit of getting rid mid season when seemingly the only available replacements are Noble, McNamara and Cullen. We have seen a marked improvement in our style of play in recent weeks so unless we have a genuine top class coach ready to to step in then I am happy to see things play out for a few more weeks. Rather than rushing in and ending up with another coach who, in a years time, the fans want rid of again.'"
Disagree. I think its of massive importance that Agar is gone by THIS mid season so we can get a new coach in who can decide whos staying and leaving and who hes bringing in. The new man also needs a full pre-season with the team. For the long term success of Hull FC i hope we have a bad easter and the board then realise that Agar cannot take FC any further and they then do the right thing and remove him from his position and tbh i think we'll lose all three anyway.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Disagree. I think its of massive importance that Agar is gone by THIS mid season so we can get a new coach in who can decide whos staying and leaving and who hes bringing in. The new man also needs a full pre-season with the team. For the long term success of Hull FC i hope we have a bad easter and the board then realise that Agar cannot take FC any further and they then do the right thing and remove him from his position and tbh i think we'll lose all three anyway.'"
He'll be fine. We have by far the toughest easter program so you can't expect him to win more than 1
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Disagree. I think its of massive importance that Agar is gone by THIS mid season so we can get a new coach in who can decide whos staying and leaving and who hes bringing in. The new man also needs a full pre-season with the team. For the long term success of Hull FC i hope we have a bad easter and the board then realise that Agar cannot take FC any further and they then do the right thing and remove him from his position and tbh i think we'll lose all three anyway.'"
I still think we have to be realistic, if Agar goes mid season then we'll end up with Webster as coach, he might string a few wins together and get appointed on a permanent basis, and thus the cycle will start again.
I don't rate Agar, but I rate MacNamara even less, I may be doing a dis-service to Webster, but he is part of the current setup and there are problems with it.
I do not want us to lose, I suspect we will win the Derby and that's about it.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Steady on, troll
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Your input today is fantastic! Really, it is.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-FC-form-standard-says-Agar/article-3448030-detail/article.htmlApparantley weve been playing like a top eight side[/url
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Sweet Jesus the man has really lost the plot....
It we are playing like a top 8 side, why the feck are we sitting in 10th .....
We should be performing like a top 3 side
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Your input today is fantastic! Really, it is.'"
If you knew the background, it was a tongue in cheek comment at someone calling Standee a troll. Hence I was laughing at it.
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Sweet Jesus the man has really lost the plot....
It we are playing like a top 8 side, why the feck are we sitting in 10th
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apparently we're training like a Grand Final winning side too!
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| I read the HDM article.................
I fell of my chair and I am currently in the local A&E which is full of many others with the same split sides injuries.
I am prepared to give him the next four matches to prove something, Catalans, KR, Wire and Saints.
I may even make an appearance at the Saints match.
Prove me and hundreds of others wrong, there is nothing in the world I would like better then FC to be back where they belong.
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| Quote ="Ian P" be back where they belong.'"
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| Quote ="Standee"apparently we're training like a Grand Final winning side too!'"
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| Quote ="Standee"Sunday afternoon, 3:15 K/O?'"
The main thing is the club gets back to being successful, because the longer this goes on the deeper the damage to the long term support
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The main thing is the club gets back to being successful, because the longer this goes on the deeper the damage to the long term support'"
It's not just the support, it's sponsorship that concerns me more.
There are already SL clubs that have been unable to secure a major shirt sponsor, will P&O renew their deal in the current financial climate when FC are not getting the media coverage that they would rightly be expecting as high profile sponsors.
If we continue to lose sponsors then the club will be damaged, it's takes longer to attract sponsors than it does to lose them.
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| Quote ="Ian P"I read the HDM article.................
I fell of my chair and I am currently in the local A&E which is full of many others with the same split sides injuries.
I am prepared to give him the next four matches to prove something, Catalans, KR, Wire and Saints.
[u I may even make an appearance at the Saints match.
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| Quote ="Standee"It's not just the support, it's sponsorship that concerns me more.
There are already SL clubs that have been unable to secure a major shirt sponsor, will P&O renew their deal in the current financial climate when FC are not getting the media coverage that they would rightly be expecting as high profile sponsors.
If we continue to lose sponsors then the club will be damaged, it's takes longer to attract sponsors than it does to lose them.'"
I agree and corporate support has been ebbing away from the club, the restaurant is no longer open match days. That alone should point to some sort of decline and set alarm bells ringing, clearly the walk up support has been knocked for six. The attendance for the Derby could be lowest at the KC and after they have a £5 offer for juniors, that should prove that they are having problems.
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| Quote ="Ian P"I agree and corporate support has been ebbing away from the club, the restaurant is no longer open match days. That alone should point to some sort of decline and set alarm bells ringing, clearly the walk up support has been knocked for six. The attendance for the Derby could be lowest at the KC and after they have a £5 offer for juniors, that should prove that they are having problems.'"
Surprisingly enough, after I had emailed the club and got a reply from Tony Sutton I replied back asking if they were "doing everything in the best interests of the club" how did he feel about the situation with the Circle restaurant and the number of corporate boxes becoming empty, I didn't get a reply.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Shut the door on your way out !! And get a shower will you, you smell like the retirement home that you've just escaped from !!
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that is truly bang out of order, show some respect
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| Any loss of corporate sponsorship (if any) is clearly down to local businesses also feeling the same belt tightening as the general public do and nat all to do with on field performance.....
Asked the question and was told we have some completely new sponsors all ready and packaged in for next year already!!!
so best not worry heads about our sponsorship issues which along with all other incomes is doing just fine and as expected / forecasted according to the clubs business model for this year!
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Any loss of corporate sponsorship (if any) is clearly down to local businesses also feeling the same belt tightening as the general public do and nat all to do with on field performance.....
Asked the question and was told we have some completely new sponsors all ready and packaged in for next year already!!!
so best not worry heads about our sponsorship issues which along with all other incomes is doing just fine and as expected / forecasted according to the clubs business model for this year!'"
well, I know of sposnors that are walking away, and I know the circle restaurant hasn't been opening.
Are you really suggesting that if FC were top of the league and playing well that the corporate business wouldn't be almost running itself.
I don't understand your head in the sand approach to FC, but then a few weeks ago you were calling for Agar to go, now it's all going according to plan, make your mind up?!?!?!
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| Quote ="Standee"
I don't understand your head in the sand approach to FC, quote
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Are you really suggesting that if FC were top of the league and playing well that the corporate business wouldn't be almost running itself.
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Sponsors aren't interested in silly things like success, match day attendances and TV exposure, you fool. They sponsor the club out of the sheer goodness of their hearts, with no expectation that they'll benefit from the arrangement at all.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Sponsors aren't interested in silly things like success, match day attendances and TV exposure, you fool. They sponsor the club out of the sheer goodness of their hearts, with no expectation that they'll benefit from the arrangement at all.'"
wonder why our main sponsors keep going dont you?
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| I don't think any Hull FC fan enjoys seeing the team struggle, it's just that people are probably more realistic about our situation than perhaps they have been in the past. Personally, I defended the coach quite a lot last season because we never really had our halfbacks on the field. However, this season there are no excuses and the reality is that we've won three games from eight and are already practically out of the race for the top six.
Given that the club bang on about improvement, I'm assuming that if we don't better our outstanding sixth place finish of last season then the campaign will be regarded as one of failure by everyone. Merely making the top eight and having a token gesture tilt at the play-offs is not good enough. The likes of Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington simply wouldn't settle for that which is why they're the top four clubs in the game. Talk of us breaking into that top four is laughable to be honest - it's just never going to happen under the current regime.
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