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| not quite sure why some people are trying to pretend that Noble wouldn't be good for us, at least for one or two seasons...
1. He has won plenty of silverware and has the required experience
2. He can make decent and shrewd signings (see Crusaders)
3. He would probably revel in utilising our pack, which is great on paper and could be awesome on the pitch
4. We could give Noble a 1 or 2 year contract which I wouldn't have a problem with
5. At the end of this season we have massive recruitment which IMO Noble could undertake
6. He's a good bloke and would suit the culture of our club far more than Agar
He's the only coach available as far as i'm aware and he's a more realistic target than a "top-class aussie"
Personally i'd give him this season and then perhaps renew for 2012 based on performance and win ratio
To pretend Noble is no better than Agar is deluded
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| Quote ="Sheldon"How did he unearth Sammut?'"
His links to Elliott at Penrith no doubt. If Nobby does take over as our coach let's hope he can go back to Penrith again....just as long as it doesn't result in Worrincy
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| Quote ="monkeyshoes"
To pretend Noble is no better than Agar is deluded'"
I agree completely from a coaching POV. If you look at our squad on paper it is good but we suffer from poor discipline, lack of options, predictable strategy and seemingly insane substitutions. Noble may have his faults but he has proven in the past he can handle these issues better than Agar seems to be able to.
I agreed when Rich Agar said that he wanted to put his team together and I gave him the benefit of the doubt to do this, I also think he did a pretty good job at it too...but the trouble is he doesn't seem to now know what to do with them and we need someone with better management and tactical skills to start getting anywhere near the club's on-paper potential.
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| Quote ="Panther"His links to Elliott at Penrith no doubt. If Nobby does take over as our coach let's hope he can go back to Penrith again....just as long as it doesn't result in Worrincy
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My point is how can you un earth a player who's played 38 nrl games at 22.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Contracts that were up at the end of the season just like Longs. So they were available in that respect. I agree Sammut not a SH but he does bring something to a team that we have been missing for a long time.'"
If we'd signed Witt or Sammut and Long had gone elsewhere there would have been uproar on here.
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| Quote ="arliebird"he would cost to much money how the hell did bradford,wigan and crusaders afford him then
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Because they are clubs who put some importance in investing in a top quality coach, not like us.
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| Quote ="Kosh"If we'd signed Witt or Sammut and Long had gone elsewhere there would have been uproar on here.'"
Dont think so. most people with half a brain new Long was well past his sell buy date.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Dont think so. most people with half a brain new Long was well past his sell buy date.'"
I think you're wrong and at the very least we would have had the 'lack of ambition' line trotted out again. Guess we'll never know for sure.
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| Quote ="Kosh"If we'd signed Witt or Sammut and Long had gone elsewhere there would have been uproar on here.'"
what planet are you on...long is at least 2 years past his best, and anyone with half a brain could see that the guy is finished.....hence him playing about 20 games in 2 years
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| Quote ="Sheldon"My point is how can you un earth a player who's played 38 nrl games at 22.'"
By ringing your old boss to ask for a favour.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"what planet are you on...long is at least 2 years past his best, and anyone with half a brain could see that the guy is finished.....hence him playing about 20 games in 2 years'"
I'm not on about who would have been the better signing, I'm on about perceptions and hindsight. If we'd have signed a relative unknown and Long had gone elsewhere the [iperception[/i would have been that we were aiming too low.
I'm beginning to think that some of our signing may well be influenced by this idea.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm not on about who would have been the better signing, I'm on about perceptions and hindsight. If we'd have signed a relative unknown and Long had gone elsewhere the [iperception[/i would have been that we were aiming too low.
I'm beginning to think that some of our signing may well be influenced by this idea.'"
I think there may have been pressure from sponsors as well Kosh
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| Quote ="el_gringo"it seems like a lot of people on here want noble to come in and think hes guna be some sort of saviour but i dont see it happen. He did nowt wi wigan or crusaders and is overated imo.'"
Id rather have Paul Cooke has head coach. He has had experience at East Hull IIRC?
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| Quote ="jehull"Id rather have Paul Cooke has head coach. He has had experience at East Hull IIRC?'"
on that basis Radford will be the new head coach Cooke was his assistant before they had a spat.
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| Quote ="Panther"By ringing your old boss to ask for a favour.'"
You don't get my point, we'll leave it there.
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| Quote ="Holty"on that basis Radford will be the new head coach Cooke was his assistant before they had a spat.'"
On a serious note, I wouldn't mind seeing a young unproven aussie come here and take charge if Agar had a spot of gardening to do. It would be great to see a former player such as Swainy, Jason Smith or even the legend that is Tony Grimaldi!! Surely they would be better then Agar.
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| Quote ="Holty"on that basis Radford will be the new head coach Cooke was his assistant before they had a spat.'"
On a serious note, I wouldn't mind seeing a young unproven aussie come here and take charge if Agar had a spot of gardening to do. It would be great to see a former player such as Swainy, Jason Smith or even the legend that is Tony Grimaldi!! Surely they would be better then Agar.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"It's like banging your head against a brick wall.'"
you're not wrong
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| Quote ="jehull"icon_lol.gif On a serious note, I wouldn't mind seeing a young unproven aussie come here and take charge if Agar had a spot of gardening to do. It would be great to see a former player such as Swainy, Jason Smith or even the legend that is Tony Grimaldi!! Surely they would be better then Agar.'"
no ta, a proven coach with good credentials is what is needed, we need a coach who has already learnt their trade
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| Quote ="el_gringo"it seems like a lot of people on here want noble to come in and think hes guna be some sort of saviour but i dont see it happen.[ He did nowt wi wigan or crusaders and is overated imo.'"
You missed out he did nowt at Bradford either,must be gutting for him.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Don't misunderstand me and presume i am a big Noble fan because I am not. However it annoys me that people cannot seem to see what he did at Wigan & Crusaders.
One thing you can guarantee with Nobby is that he wont let the players rest on their laurels like they seem able to do at the moment. Remember the game last year when he kicked the bottle etc, you can see his passion etc from incidents like that. We currently need someone to light a fire under our players because it seems clear to me Agar is letting them just go through the motions, and the only time they are fired up is when it suits them.'"
Your right on the mark with this.
For the life of me I cannot understand how some fans on here cannot see what a good job noble has done in ALL of his League positions. The only post that he can have critism levelled at him is the GB one but that is a poisoned chalice.
It seems we have fans who believe only the biggest names in the world are good enough regardless of whether they are right for the current club structure.
For me Noble has stepped into three clubs that were underperforming and turned them round, How is he not the right coach in peoples eyes is beyond me. Even if it is just for a couple of years.
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| As much as id love to see a top class coach installed at the club, i just dont feel anything will change long term until the current board are gone
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| Quote ="fcking"As much as id love to see a top class coach installed at the club, i just dont feel anything will change long term until the current board are gone'"
you do realise the letters aagru are missing from your username, don't you?
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