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| Certainly has potential, but the way some fans ate going on you would think he was Jamie Lyon, his poor attitude has been spoken about before too.
We either trust Smith to get the squad right or we don't, need some tough decisions, maybe this is one of them.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Certainly has potential, but the way some fans ate going on you would think he was Jamie Lyon, his poor attitude has been spoken about before too.
We either trust Smith to get the squad right or we don't, need some tough decisions, maybe this is one of them.'"
Let's hope so Dave. His tweet seems to prove that he needs to keep quiet and be more professional.
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| I'd trust the guy who's won several GF and CC and turned every club he's been at round. He'll have his reasons
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"Let's hope so Dave. His tweet seems to prove that he needs to keep quiet and be more professional.'"
Yeah, if that's aimed at the coaching staff that's poor, still a Hull player and paid by the club.
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| Looks like the Tweet has been deleted.
Have to trust in TS. He’s been brought in to make big decisions and sort the club out once and for all. He sees the players every day, so need to trust his judgment.
Wasn’t CW hanging around with Reynolds last year? Maybe attitude not right?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Certainly has potential, but the way some fans ate going on you would think he was Jamie Lyon, his poor attitude has been spoken about before too.
We either trust Smith to get the squad right or we don't, need some tough decisions, maybe this is one of them.'"
I wouldn't be surprised if the move is connected to Wynne and his attitude as like you say it's not something knew and its been reported before about his poor attitude and something I believe BH and Wynn himself have mentioned previously.
If that is indeed the case then TS needs supporting for taking such steps as it is a signal that there are consequences and players are accountable/responsible. Hopefully something can be done to with some of the more senior players too in shipping them out.
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| Quote ="mwindass"https://twitter.com/ConnorWynne15/status/1635615586112917506?t=zJS9J1mnlNZMSRiiioZsiA&s=19
I'd imagine those rumours that Smith doesn't rate him are true.'"
What did the tweet say ? It says it’s deleted on the link
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| Quote ="Hullboysclub4ever"What did the tweet say ? It says it’s deleted on the link'"
Something along the lines of "Be good to get some game time, time to prove some people wrong"
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| Mentally immature as shown on the pitch when reacting petulantly, another player who had brainfarts and was a penalty machine.
Correct decision, about time Hull got ruthless, just hope more are moved on.
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| Has Wynn had any pre-season ?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Yeah, if that's aimed at the coaching staff that's poor, still a Hull player and paid by the club.'"
The fact he's deleted his tweet says a lot about his attitude and professionalism.
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| But atleast Wynne actually played with heart on his sleeve
Alot of players were a disgrace on Saturday yet will play Friday no doubt
Should be playing the academy lads I would
Wouldn't play likes of lane, Houghton, Evans again this season need to start sending a message out
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| Quote ="Dave K."How do you release all those players, would cost thousands to pay them off, I'm all for suggestions, but they have ti be possible.
Agree with your other points though, we need some size, but also speed at the sake time, Sao and Satae are big blokes but can be a bit lazy in defence, need big blokes that can defend too.
Need forwards like Vaughan.'"
Alot of the squad is out of contract so should be easy
Unless we have ridiculous things like letting Houghton sign his own 1 year deal like end of last season .....then yeah will be hard work
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Decisions on quota signings and the players born in hull who are well overated have been huge errors.
Interested whos out of contract, as i honestly would struggle offering any a new deal, squad needs gutting now. An element of ruthlessness needs introducing.
We need a if your not good enough yoyr gone culture.
Not a if your born in hull you get kept culture.'"
Yep happened far too long and too many bang average players
Houghton, taylor, shaul, Lane, fash, Scott, Wynne, bowden, turgut, matongo, Lineham, crooks, logan, Harris, cator, Green, Hadley, adbul, litten
A long list and only 2 players that's played a full international
A good chunk of them left and are part time players
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| Not looked after himself while he's been injured:
Smith, meanwhile, believes the loan will be the best thing for Wynne. Asked if the decision was both fitness and game-time related, Smith said: "Absolutely - he's been way off in that respect. He got injured and he put on a whole load of weight.
"He's needed to shed some of that. It's put him behind in terms of match fitness. He needs to get that up to levels that he is capable of.
"The best way we felt to do that was a loan spell with Newcastle. When he gets fit enough and plays well enough, like all our players, he'll get a chance."
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| Quote ="mwindass"Not looked after himself while he's been injured:
Smith, meanwhile, believes the loan will be the best thing for Wynne. Asked if the decision was both fitness and game-time related, Smith said: "Absolutely - he's been way off in that respect. He got injured and he put on a whole load of weight.
"He's needed to shed some of that. It's put him behind in terms of match fitness. He needs to get that up to levels that he is capable of.
"The best way we felt to do that was a loan spell with Newcastle. When he gets fit enough and plays well enough, like all our players, he'll get a chance."'"
In which case the club are correct in their decision. It's up to Wynne now to prove himself.
Hopefully some time away from the club and the city will help him mature. Maybe not a coincidence that he became close friends with Josh Reynolds, not the best influence.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"In which case the club are correct in their decision. It's up to Wynne now to prove himself.
Hopefully some time away from the club and the city will help him mature. Maybe not a coincidence that he became close friends with Josh Reynolds, not the best influence.'"
A ex origin player "not the best influence"
Jason Smith used to drink and smoke didn't stop him been one of the best players in super league esp 01 and 02
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"A ex origin player "not the best influence"
Jason Smith used to drink and smoke didn't stop him been one of the best players in super league esp 01 and 02'"
Jason Smith also chose when he wanted to play in his last season here. I’m sick of him being vaunted. He wouldn’t have lasted his last season under a tougher coach. It’s been going on for years but you were watching City in your short pants.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Jason Smith also chose when he wanted to play in his last season here. I’m sick of him being vaunted. He wouldn’t have lasted his last season under a tougher coach. It’s been going on for years but you were watching City in your short pants.'"
He was still our best player in 2004 when he played
I watched Wigan away from 2004 during first lockdown and he was even then a class above anything on the pitch including a certain Andy farrell
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"But atleast Wynne actually played with heart on his sleeve
Alot of players were a disgrace on Saturday yet will play Friday no doubt
Should be playing the academy lads I would
Wouldn't play likes of lane, Houghton, Evans again this season need to start sending a message out'"
Is heart on the sleave enough, after this you start to moan about Fash and Houghton, two players who definitely wear they heart on their sleeves.
You can't have it both ways.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Quote ="Thetalentboy"But atleast Wynne actually played with heart on his sleeve
Alot of players were a disgrace on Saturday yet will play Friday no doubt
Should be playing the academy lads I would
Wouldn't play likes of lane, Houghton, Evans again this season need to start sending a message out'"
Is heart on the sleave enough, after this you start to moan about Fash and Houghton, two players who definitely wear they heart on their sleeves.
You can't have it both ways.'"
The question is would Wynne get in to the 17 of sides like St's, Wigan, Leeds, Warrington, Huddersfield and the most likely answer is no. I think he's a decent enough player to be a squad player but his temperament/attitude may well hold him back.
Its all well and good wearing your heart on your sleeve but not at the detriment of the team and too often the good stuff that Wynne does is over shadowed by his loss of self control, and we have too many players that give dumb pentalies away as it is.
He's probably not been helped by what seems to have been a total lack of professionalism running through the playing and coaching teams the past few years.
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| Quote ="mwindass"https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-fcs-jack-brown-contract-8254517
Looks like we have a clause in Brown's contract meaning he'll be here in 24'"
Good news in my opinion, one of the few players I'd be looking to keep.
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| Looking at that list of players out of contract the number I’d keep doesn’t even hit double figures. Even one or two of those have to have big seasons and play more games than they miss to earn a new deal.
I don’t think anything other than a big change & clear out in the squad at the end of this season will make a difference.
AP & TS have to be ruthless and not sentimental with retentions this year.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Looking at that list of players out of contract the number I’d keep doesn’t even hit double figures. Even one or two of those have to have big seasons and play more games than they miss to earn a new deal.
I don’t think anything other than a big change & clear out in the squad at the end of this season will make a difference.
AP & TS have to be ruthless and not sentimental with retentions this year.'"
Agree. Mammoth rebuilding job.
Anybody know who our top earners are who are ooc?
And how their wages earned vs performance stacks up, as these are the ones id be moving on asap. If were smart we could make 2 top second row and prop signings, but not overly xonfident with our ability to identify players with good ability and with the correct mentalities
Taylor, Shaul, Houghton, Griffin surely releases a chunk up, and foe me as the seniors in this squad theyve failed miserabally recently in showing leadership and effort, looking forward to seeing the back of them now.
Scott, wynne, Mcnamara, Lane and Fash, Savelio, Lovodua, Evans wouldnt be far behind depending on contract status.
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