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| smith has it totally wrong with brown.hes not a 7 and would be far better in a heremia type role at 9.why he is playing houghton at 9 and keeping him on the all match is beyond me,i thought we de got past all that.even in his post match talk he gives morgan smith the plaudets,but adds,he can play a few positions.we need a few specialists in the side ,not a team of players who can play in a few positions.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"smith has it totally wrong with brown.hes not a 7 and would be far better in a heremia type role at 9.why he is playing houghton at 9 and keeping him on the all match is beyond me,i thought we de got past all that.even in his post match talk he gives morgan smith the plaudets,but adds,he can play a few positions.we need a few specialists in the side ,not a team of players who can play in a few positions.'"
Id forgotten about Heremaia, time flies! but I think you are right Brown could do a similar type of role off the bench.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Asked by Hull Live why Hoy missed out, Smith replied: "It was just a team selection call based on combinations. It was an opportunity for somebody else to show what they can do in the half-back position.
Is he the new Joe Biden?
He cant remember we have already tried Smith/Brown combo'"
Theres a bad smell about Hoy missing out, he has been in the better half of performers the first two games (not a big accolade I know!) and we were short of numbers, something has gone on but what I dont know
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Relieved to get the win. As others have mentioned, some promising performances from some players, however we had this game all but won at half time and almost found a way to lose.
Our discipline is awful. Too many penalties and six agains every week.
Can’t understand why Hoy didn’t play. Played ok so far this season and didn’t warrant being dropped. We need as much stability as we can, whilst we wait for the suspended/injured players to return, so dropping Hoy doesn’t look justified.
Tough game next week at Cats. The real test will be Leigh at home in a fortnight. We’ll have at least key players back, so a major improvement should be expected.
Finally, a big shout out to London, with a very spirited performance. Also respect to the London fans who brought more fans than Huddersfield and made more noise.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Theres a bad smell about Hoy missing out, he has been in the better half of performers the first two games (not a big accolade I know!) and we were short of numbers, something has gone on but what I dont know'"
Tex was also relegated to supervising the half time Kick the Ball in the Van competition, which is the ultimate go and sit on the naughty step. Looked quite rightly p1ssed off. I remember Kane Evans getting that gig last season, a few weeks before he went home.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Well that was hard work to watch and it was hardly Saints or Wigan we were playing, but a team that many pundits predicted wouldn't win a game all year. The fact we actually managed to win a game in the last minute has to be a plus but otherwise we just played dumb rugby, ran down blind alleys and read the game poorly. Today I think any other Super League club would have beaten us easily. Yes we have injuries and suspensions but it's hardly inspiring is it? It's going to be a long tough season and one that would threaten our coach under normal circumstances but with the coach we have who else do we get. Getting rid isn't the answer. Whether its our financial situation or what I don't know but we have let so many good players go and today showed that we haven't replace any of them like for like. we have some good youth but without some real inspiring father figures out there they'll eventually struggle. particularly when they re surrounded by colleagues who show a lack of any sort of direction. Catalan will be tough indeed. sadly and rather embarrassingly I like many on here have never felts so low about a season.'"
Getting rid could be the only answer rather than sit on mediocrity
My opinion is he is living off his past success but the game has passed him by.
Gaz Ellis was no coach but neither is Gene and i know which one i would have kept at the club.
Tell me what Smith has done other than get rid of a number of players who were already in their last year of service.so thats not difficult and make us into the most undisciplined team in S/L.
Nothing on the field shows any improvement whether thats in structure,defence or attack.
The promotion of youth is not Smith choice it has been necessarry due to suspensions and injury,in fact for whatever reason he is holding back one of our better youth players in Balmforth.
I welcomed the Smith appointment but just dont think the passion is there.If it was he would have sorted out the onfield indicipline last season never mind this season
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| Quote ="bonaire"Getting rid could be the only answer rather than sit on mediocrity
My opinion is he is living off his past success but the game has passed him by.
Gaz Ellis was no coach but neither is Gene and i know which one i would have kept at the club.
Tell me what Smith has done other than get rid of a number of players who were already in their last year of service.so thats not difficult and make us into the most undisciplined team in S/L.
Nothing on the field shows any improvement whether thats in structure,defence or attack.
The promotion of youth is not Smith choice it has been necessarry due to suspensions and injury,in fact for whatever reason he is holding back one of our better youth players in Balmforth.
I welcomed the Smith appointment but just dont think the passion is there.If it was he would have sorted out the onfield indicipline last season never mind this season
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Oh do shut up. We win and you’re negative. “Fans” like you are just part of the problem
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| Quote ="Quirkyusername"Oh do shut up. We win and you’re negative. “Fans” like you are just part of the problem'"
Tony is that you? We struggled to beat a championship level team that got unexpectedly promoted at home. Every other SL team would have beaten us today.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Tony is that you? We struggled to beat a championship level team that got unexpectedly promoted at home. Every other SL team would have beaten us today.'"
No, my name’s Mike. It’s draining reading whine, whine, whine. Try picking a positive or two out of a performance instead of just the negatives.
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| Quote ="Quirkyusername"No, my name’s Mike. It’s draining reading whine, whine, whine. Try picking a positive or two out of a performance instead of just the negatives.'"
You wont get into half of them, they just put the same thing on repeat but change the head coach name as appropiate. This rebuild is massive no matter who the head coach is. Trouble is people dont see beyond the first team results or the shoe string budget we have.
One of the most successful coach in SL, yet the armchair coaches claim the game has past him by. Getting rid wont solve the problem, no other head coach cant do more with this squad and budget. You wont get it into them though.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"You wont get into half of them, they just put the same thing on repeat but change the head coach name as appropiate. This rebuild is massive no matter who the head coach is. Trouble is people dont see beyond the first team results or the shoe string budget we have.
One of the most successful coach in SL, yet the armchair coaches claim the game has past him by. Getting rid wont solve the problem, no other head coach cant do more with this squad and budget. You wont get it into them though.'"
Please explain how London who are on such a low budget some players are part time were just a few missed goal kicks from beating us.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Please explain how London who are on such a low budget some players are part time were just a few missed goal kicks from beating us.'"
With 8 players out, losing their best player 1 minute in and are also a part time outfit...
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| Quote ="UllFC"Please explain how London who are on such a low budget some players are part time were just a few missed goal kicks from beating us.'"
Thats a good question
Id say less square pegs in round holes
And faced with opposition with no leadership/organisation/kicking game in the halfs.
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| Look we have plenty to moan about ATM. There's some like me who try to paint a positive picture regardless. Some infact most who praise us when we are good and complain rightly when we are crap. Then there's those who don't say nothing when we win but lose and it's post after post after post whining.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Look we have plenty to moan about ATM. There's some like me who try to paint a positive picture regardless. Some infact most who praise us when we are good and complain rightly when we are crap. Then there's those who don't say nothing when we win but lose and it's post after post after post whining.'"
When was the last decent win though? Saints at home June last year? The away derby last July? Thats that last I can remember us beating the odds to win a game
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| Quote ="hull2524"Look we have plenty to moan about ATM. There's some like me who try to paint a positive picture regardless. Some infact most who praise us when we are good and complain rightly when we are crap. Then there's those who don't say nothing when we win but lose and it's post after post after post whining.'"
We won and it's still post after post after post.
Many of us, me included except our budget may not what it should be but cannot except how poor we actually are.
Recruitment not so good so far. Okunbor - jury still out but offers nothing currently a youngster wouldn't.
Nu Brown- a quality international hooker but a poor substitute for a SH.
Persisting in playing Houghton for 80 minutes.
Slow line speed.
No pressure on the kickers.
Poor attacking structure and shocking ill discipline.
The above is directly Smith's responsibility in which money has no bearing on.
That is his job to improve all of the above but I see no improvement whatsoever.
We are boring and dull and very fragile.
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| As always I try to offer a balance of opinion to the more vocalists on here.
As previously stated we have sat in the stands a big bulk of our salary cap players..
Tony Smith has won more and has more man management experience than everyone on here.
Balmforth I do believe is still carrying an injury issue.
Whilst I’m not convinced yet in Pele,
Ese Ese and Truman. They should and could well provide much more go forward than we currently have.
If that Jack Walker pass hadn’t been given as forward , we’d have gone on to win comfortably.
It was a makeshift team out there with a lot of pressure on the players to win.
I watched the world beaters get beat at a depleted Salford.
Like I keep saying there’s not a great standard out there at the moment.
It’s early days.
Main thing is we have points on the board.
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Dan Tomlinson had Lane as one of our better performers. Still what does he and smith and even me know.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"You wont get into half of them, they just put the same thing on repeat but change the head coach name as appropiate. This rebuild is massive no matter who the head coach is. Trouble is people dont see beyond the first team results or the shoe string budget we have.
One of the most successful coach in SL, yet the armchair coaches claim the game has past him by. Getting rid wont solve the problem, no other head coach cant do more with this squad and budget. You wont get it into them though.'"
I don’t disagree that the rebuild is a huge task and doubt many others would however what does concern me is that irrespective of budget, line speed, discipline, on field organisation etc isn’t something that should be affected by budgets large or small.
Smith with all his experience and coaching pedigree has been in charge long enough to have made some form of impression/improvement and given us an identity. Yet we have seen little if any improvement in so many facets of the game since he replaced Hodgson.
We yet again were the engineers of our own downfall and almost did everything we could to give the game away and in the end got out of jail somehow.
To say no other coach could do more with this squad and budget is questionable as I dare say Rowley and Salfiord are an example of a team that has a limited budget and again lost key onfield personnel yet still look an organised snd well coached team.
Whilst there’s mitigating circumstances with the loss of players in bans and injuries that’s not an excuse for the same failings we see that even after a large degree of player turnover since last season.
I’m not saying TS should be sacked but think it’s fair that fans question things under his tenure based on the evidence so far.
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| Quote ="Chris71"I don’t disagree that the rebuild is a huge task and doubt many others would however what does concern me is that irrespective of budget, line speed, discipline, on field organisation etc isn’t something that should be affected by budgets large or small.
Smith with all his experience and coaching pedigree has been in charge long enough to have made some form of impression/improvement and given us an identity. Yet we have seen little if any improvement in so many facets of the game since he replaced Hodgson.
We yet again were the engineers of our own downfall and almost did everything we could to give the game away and in the end got out of jail somehow.
To say no other coach could do more with this squad and budget is questionable as I dare say Rowley and Salfiord are an example of a team that has a limited budget and again lost key onfield personnel yet still look an organised snd well coached team.
Whilst there’s mitigating circumstances with the loss of players in bans and injuries that’s not an excuse for the same failings we see that even after a large degree of player turnover since last season.
I’m not saying TS should be sacked but think it’s fair that fans question things under his tenure based on the evidence so far.'"
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| Quote ="UllFC"Please explain how London who are on such a low budget some players are part time were just a few missed goal kicks from beating us.'"
See, you just can’t, can you? Go on, I dare you, pick a couple of positives from the game.
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| I won big on FC minus 3.5 points
Now, sadly to say I will use those winnings to place on the first coach in Super League to lose their job.
Likely to collect after Good Friday’s results
Somebody tell me I’m wasting my winnings
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| I’d be careful what you say lads,have a go at the moaners and bully’s on here and the gestapo have you on the naughty step faster than Putin getting rid of his rivals
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| Quote ="Quirkyusername"See, you just can’t, can you? Go on, I dare you, pick a couple of positives from the game.'"
Err we won,
We had another youngster make his debut
It’s only the month of March, so early days
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| Quote ="The games afoot"I’d be careful what you say lads,have a go at the moaners and bully’s on here and the gestapo have you on the naughty step faster than Putin getting rid of his rivals'"
Tbh there’s a cross mix on here .. a few conspiracy theorists
Some Manchester United fans too.
I get that the fan base have a cross spectrum of population but some of the doom and gloom is Eastenders quality.
Cone on guys!!
Wait till we have a representative squad on the field
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Tbh there’s a cross mix on here .. a few conspiracy theorists
Some Manchester United fans too.
I get that the fan base have a cross spectrum of population but some of the doom and gloom is Eastenders quality.
Cone on guys!!
Wait till we have a representative squad on the field'"
How very dare you, my other team Everton, are crap as well
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