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Quote ="Plum Bob"Emailed tweeting about a big story to break in rugby league! Anyone any idea? https://twitter.com/james_smailes/statu ... 10209?s=21'" The mole (Aussie journo) tweeted yesterday that Newcastle FC had expressed interest in buying Toronto and moving them to the north east. Big, if it comes off.

Quote ="Plum Bob"Emailed tweeting about a big story to break in rugby league! Anyone any idea? https://twitter.com/james_smailes/statu ... 10209?s=21'" The mole (Aussie journo) tweeted yesterday that Newcastle FC had expressed interest in buying Toronto and moving them to the north east. Big, if it comes off.

5 players and 2 staff tested positive for covid. Cas game off.

Selection sorted then

Fucking hell.

Just seen this.

That explains the poor performance the other day.

If half the squad were coming down with the virus maybe that contributed to the performance. Hope they all recover quickly.

I blame Radford.

How much has AP actually 'lost'? The money from season ticket holders/memberships and shirt sales was pretty much already in the company coffers, money from sponsors, money from SKY.
We get no money from the concession stands so the only income is the walk ups plus some limited shirt/garment sales, the amount is therefore the net amount after VAT for ticket sales and the limited number of garment/shirt sales.

How much per 'walk up' ticket sale, as a net amount after VAT does the club receive and how many tickets/bums on seats will the club have 'lost' this season?

I'd really like to know how you worked out these 'millions' and how you had access to the clubs accounts? .
Also AP/Hull have, as with other SL clubs being allowed to apply for funding from the government via the RFL, or had you forgotten about that?
ATEOTD if Pearson has made errors that have cost him, that's on him, no-one else, sure the current climate has an impact but not how much you're imagining it is and there's financial help available.
To have a chance to be in a better financial position, the owner of the business needs to employ the right people, needs to invest money in times when things are not as good as they have been, to redress his errors to have a better chance of success, otherwise the business will fail, at best stagnate.

Harsh. Does beg a question on protocols though. Everyone was clear on Friday I think then 7 or 8 now positive. Do they test on match day I wonder?

Keef will provide us with the answers.

Apparently some players in Leeds pub after match.
Pubs are perfect for spreading coronavirus.

As opposed to sweating all over each other for hours a week training and on match day.

Yes but the players were doing the hokey-cokey in the pub, shaking it all about.
Bloody awful if true.

I read their post to mean that's maybe where it entered the squad as opposed to spread within them.

Lol Keef is asking if he needs a hammer and chisel, must be writing his memoirs.

Has CV19 finally done for the whole season.

They looked lethargic...but we have seen them look like that many times over the last couple of years long before Corona. Id like to think if any of the players were showing even mild symtoms of any of the symtoms theyd have been stood down.

We've had times before when the club has had a bout of 'stomach bug' and it was all touch and go who'd make the squad...last week wasnt like that, club were clear all week it was a full strength squad except Taylor. Makes me think the infection occured at the weekend and the players are only showing signs today.

They'll be fine, and a positive test likely to be a false positive at that, as most are, is no indication of performance drop, it would have shown up in training right so there's no excuse for that awful performance.
The players in the age range have going by current NHS England figures a 1 in 8.75million chance of dying WITH a virus mentioned in the death certificate, that's not dying FROM a virus which is totally different.
To put that into context, people in the players age group are many times over more likely to die in a car crash.

I'm sure players/staff will be worried because they have no idea of the chances of actually being seriously ill from this, it's so remote to be not worth worrying about, you may as well never walk down the stair seeing as you've more chance of dying from doing that as well.

Last year there was many thousands more people dying from respiratory diseases, no-one batted an eyelid, or the year before or any other year when we had more flu/pneumonia deaths. Ppeak of the so called pandemic was 50% lower than for 2015 peak flu season, at this time of year the threat of serious illness is extremely remote, it's factually far less than any other year according to the governments own data.

“People on here seem to think that if we want him we'll get him. Same with players. If only it were that simple”

This is a nail on the head moment. Exactly, and why would Ian Watson, Daryl Powell etc want to come ? It’s a big enough job to take on before you start ridding the team / club of the ingrained attitude issues. I think the players fall into the trap that some fans do, ‘we’re Hull FC, we get what we want when we want’. Someone earlier mentioned Fonou’s hair, I personally think it’s an ego thing, ‘look at me, they paid big bucks for me, I’m special’ Another example I’m not comfortable with is, and this is going to be controversial, Ellis saying “I thought we’d be the team to put fifty plus points on a team” ... why ? I think team, fans, coaches, whoever need a reality check and bringing back down to Earth. This whole attitude of ‘it’s alright to be late, turning up for meetings late etc’ that Last alluded to also makes me think there’s a big ego attitude that needs stamping out - I’m assuming Shauls bleached hair is some sort of fine ? So he broke the rules already and basically stuck two fingers up to Last and his new regime

Pre the announcement that half the team have got COVID earlier this evening, they would beat Cas handsomely and that would paper over the cracks until the next big defeat. And this whole Covid announcement, has someone blatantly broken rules (another ‘I’m invincible and can do what I like’ example) ? Out drinking in a COVID hot spot after the match ?

This ramifications of this announcement could have an impact of the reputation of the club. What’s the answer ? Who knows

COVID hotspot? There are more cases per capita in Hull than Leeds?

Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"How much has AP actually 'lost'? The money from season ticket holders/memberships and shirt sales was pretty much already in the company coffers, money from sponsors, money from SKY. We get no money from the concession stands so the only income is the walk ups plus some limited shirt/garment sales, the amount is therefore the net amount after VAT for ticket sales and the limited number of garment/shirt sales. How much per 'walk up' ticket sale, as a net amount after VAT does the club receive and how many tickets/bums on seats will the club have 'lost' this season? I'd really like to know how you worked out these 'millions' and how you had access to the clubs accounts? . Also AP/Hull have, as with other SL clubs being allowed to apply for funding from the government via the RFL, or had you forgotten about that? ATEOTD if Pearson has made errors that have cost him, that's on him, no-one else, sure the current climate has an impact but not how much you're imagining it is and there's financial help available. To have a chance to be in a better financial position, the owner of the business needs to employ the right people, needs to invest money in times when things are not as good as they have been, to redress his errors to have a better chance of success, otherwise the business will fail, at best stagnate.'" Average attendance 11k, passholder 8k, so walkups = 3k, 10 home games lost, that's 30k, one is a derby so that makes it 38k, £20 per head = £760,000. Next year's sky deal reduced by £250000, so there's a million for starters. Quote Leeds Rhinos are predicted to lose £4 million over the next two seasons as a direct result of the coronavirus lockdown'" https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/leeds-se ... own-30849/

Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"How much has AP actually 'lost'? The money from season ticket holders/memberships and shirt sales was pretty much already in the company coffers, money from sponsors, money from SKY. We get no money from the concession stands so the only income is the walk ups plus some limited shirt/garment sales, the amount is therefore the net amount after VAT for ticket sales and the limited number of garment/shirt sales. How much per 'walk up' ticket sale, as a net amount after VAT does the club receive and how many tickets/bums on seats will the club have 'lost' this season? I'd really like to know how you worked out these 'millions' and how you had access to the clubs accounts? . Also AP/Hull have, as with other SL clubs being allowed to apply for funding from the government via the RFL, or had you forgotten about that? ATEOTD if Pearson has made errors that have cost him, that's on him, no-one else, sure the current climate has an impact but not how much you're imagining it is and there's financial help available. To have a chance to be in a better financial position, the owner of the business needs to employ the right people, needs to invest money in times when things are not as good as they have been, to redress his errors to have a better chance of success, otherwise the business will fail, at best stagnate.'" Average attendance 11k, passholder 8k, so walkups = 3k, 10 home games lost, that's 30k, one is a derby so that makes it 38k, £20 per head = £760,000. Next year's sky deal reduced by £250000, so there's a million for starters. Quote Leeds Rhinos are predicted to lose £4 million over the next two seasons as a direct result of the coronavirus lockdown'" https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/leeds-se ... own-30849/

Quote ="ccs"Average attendance 11k, passholder 8k, so walkups = 3k, 10 home games lost, that's 30k, one is a derby so that makes it 38k, £20 per head = £760,000. Next year's sky deal reduced by £250000, so there's a million for starters. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/leeds-se ... own-30849/'" Even if your estimated walk ups are correct the average price is well below £20 a head, that's before deductions, actual take home from walk-ups is likely less than half of what you've quoted there. Plus the money we're losing there, we are saving by not opening the stadium. Add to that we have had zero staff costs for a number of months and will continue to have reduced staff costs for the coming months. The article has no relevance to us, Leeds are an entirely different proposition, their costs are higher as they have a ground to maintain and they're losing out on significantly hospitality revenue, that's even without the significant sums they make hiring the facilities out during the week.

Quote ="ccs"Average attendance 11k, passholder 8k, so walkups = 3k, 10 home games lost, that's 30k, one is a derby so that makes it 38k, £20 per head = £760,000. Next year's sky deal reduced by £250000, so there's a million for starters. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/leeds-se ... own-30849/'" Even if your estimated walk ups are correct the average price is well below £20 a head, that's before deductions, actual take home from walk-ups is likely less than half of what you've quoted there. Plus the money we're losing there, we are saving by not opening the stadium. Add to that we have had zero staff costs for a number of months and will continue to have reduced staff costs for the coming months. The article has no relevance to us, Leeds are an entirely different proposition, their costs are higher as they have a ground to maintain and they're losing out on significantly hospitality revenue, that's even without the significant sums they make hiring the facilities out during the week.

Match day prices for one adult and child are not far off £40.

Are you sure about that, the SMC saves money, but do we?

But it highlights the scale of the problem, some people on here (well one person) seem to think the financial difficulties are down to bad management, and Coronavirus should have been treated like any other seasonal 'flu.

And you can probably add a reduction in pass sales next year (it would have normally been a significant income stream in a couple of months time) of 2k, say, adding up to as much as £500k.

That’s not the point Mrs B. If the players remain in their bubble and all are coronavirus free then no matter of the amount of physical contact they’ll be ok. It’s going to a pub and being around others who are outside of their bubble and do not know whether they are carriers or not. Pubs have poor ventilation and those that have extractor fans, if there working, they were fitted when people were allowed to smoke inside, suck air to the outside and whilst doing so particles move freely through their draw. If your standing in line with the fans draw your going to get a lungful of all airborne viruses.
NRL have a strict bubble policy. Sadly, here in the UK we behave as though were all untouchable.