Not a lot we can do now...will always be behind the team but not Agar.......Looks as though Hull FC are putting profit before success.......another 2 1/2 years of mediocraty for us....will be intresting to see pass sales next year.

In English please.

"Stuck with him" would suggest that is it not the clubs doing. They actually CHOSE to give him another contract!! Beggers belief

Cant be ar$ed to read 24 pages but surely this will mean bye bye Craig Hall...the way Agar treats him will see Hall go and come back and bite us on the ar$e.

I'ts very worrying for me,we don't seem to have improved in the basic's of the game,line speed in defence is still very slow,fighting for the floor (do we actually do this),attack wise,apart from St helens,looks very similair to last year,were are the dummy runners, people pushing through to give our attacking player options and if we make a break,were are the supporting players,all these are basics and if you look at Wigan & Huddersfield,they do these at twice the speed we do them,is there personal on paper, any better than our's?,or are there coaches better?,for us to start winning Grand Finals we need to start at the top and bring in a World Class coach,if that means paying a top class salary at the detriment of a slightly inferior playing personal,I'll accept that,for the long term benefits.

I'm not having a go at Agar as a person,he comes across as man who loves the game is very Knowledgeable about it,he maybe is just better as an assistant.

I'm so stunned by this decision it's taken me all day to even mention it. I am truly amazed by this, the timing of it makes no sense whatsoever. We haven't exactly set the league on fire, in fact our last few performances have hinted that we are still as average as we've been for the past couple of seasons. The only thing I can imagine is that the board must have got the idea that he was in line for the England job and have been panicked into realising that they might have to go and spend some serious money on a top coach.

Your right in that we play to exactly the same "gameplan" and structure regardless of who we are playing. We never seem to target the opposition in highlighted weak areas and prefer the "concentrate on ourselves" attitude. Well I'm afraid the top coaches look for any edge they can get, so far the only "edge" Agar seems capable of is the bollox mind games about players injuries which doesn't work anyway.

I'm not sure this squad is in the top 4 of the league currently and it would take a special coach to get us to finish in the top 4. With Agar in charge I would expect top 8 and top 6 would be a good return for the standard of coach we have in charge.

Well i for one wont admit we are stuck with him. I have a little faith our board were not stupid enough not to put specific targets into the contract. Another poor season this season and regardless of the new 2 year deal he will be gone.

Good april fool joke,its even on the engage super league site !!!!

Sky sports news must be in on the joke to

Although I feel this appointment has been done at a very early stage of the season, if Agar's name does allow us to attract quality signings into the club, as seems to be the case last year (although the cheque book must also be a factor) then I can see benefit, as we are still very much lacking in the three quarter area. As stated the quick resigning of some senior players, will hopefully stop the rumour mongering and bring some stability for this season, and can now be completed with next seasons Head Coach in place already. Maybe we will have a jump on the rest of the clubs in terms of both retention and recruitment?

Having said that tactics and squad selection still leave leave me puzzled.

I can't understand why sixth would be a failure for this season though. Looking through the squads of Leeds, Saints, Wigan, and Warrington with past playing time for senior players to gel, Huddersfield in terms of an all round well coached unit with quality players, and Bradford being in a similar position to ourselves in terms of quality recruits needing time to fully exert their influence, is sixth unrealistic? Although with a bit of luck top 4 could be the case, we need to be ambititious but with a sense of realism, the top spots are now far more competitive than when we finished 2nd in 2006.

Why would we have a jump on other clubs who already have coaches in place and under contract?

I did question mark the point , but the earlier we formulate our recruitment strategy and earmark targets the more chance we have of achieving the signatures.

With the quota rules we will only be looking at british players anyway, will be hard to prise good backs from other teams.

Let's try to be positive, we got Longy last year, would you have thought that would happen if we were having this conversation 12 months ago, and I'm not saying he deal was done in March, buy Longy has said Agar's approach and the role he offered had a massive influence on his decision, maybe some PR in this, but Longy felt it was worth mentioning in his book not just on the HFC Website, maybe Agar can say the right words to a few other established UK stars also.

come and play for me and I wont drop you, regardless?

Like I said earlier tactics and squad selection are often to say the least questionable, but I think your emotion has overtaken you if think that is what attracts players of the standing of Long, I'm sure the guy has enough belief in his ability as a player that he could retain his place in any SL team. After all Saints would have been happy to have him playing for them at the moment but Longy's confidence in his ability said he could maintain his standards for 2 years and not just 1, and if Saints had said yes he may well still be there fighting for a place, and no doubt winning it.

Long came for a 2 year deal and money, players rarely sign for the coach, although they often say it.

Saints offered one year, and a reduced salary.

Whats the point in spending money on any decent players though when the coach is clueless? It's like buying champagne to drink and then adding lime or blackcurrant!! You've got to know how to use what you've got.

Merely answering the point you felt our player recruitment is based on a doesn't matter how you play, the place is yours policy.

and wigan offered a 2 year deal and more money,and there ground is a stone throw away from his house,i think long will be here for a while longer then his 2 year playing contract aswel.

Cripes,more hits on here than a Cooke thread.

I may as well put my sixpennorth in.I was perturbed to say the least upon hearing the news. I thought maybe the board would have hung fire at least over Easter.Agar is our coach though,like it or not ,so maybe we should cut him some slack and see how it pans out this season?


Still no sign of Jake the Peg b.t.w.....getting worried now.

I have no doubt, in fact I can see next season as a player, season after as assistant and take over as coach in 2012.

We'll see, all I want is a successful FC, I have no faith that is about to happen with the decision that has been made, but it's been made.

Without reading the last 20 pages - any sign of this new news yet?