Sure i have that one on dvd somewhere

Or on your crack pipe

Oh here we go, okay you beat us and outplayed us all game today but lets be honest, how many players are we missing and how many players are you missing today? Weve got Newts, Mason, Brisc and Colbon (who would of made a massive difference considering how much you kicked towards Latus) all missing from the squad. With hardly any if not no players missing out of your squad today, considering you only just beat us if it want for the final 10 minutes isnt quite as much of an accumplishment as you make out. When you come to our place all the players that missed out today because of injury and passport problems (with the acception of Mason and the rumors with toulon) will be playing and then we will see who wins. As the first game of the season will tell you, we have the better team when everyone is fit and able to play. Plus we had Dobbo in who has only just came back from a long term injury so hes not going to be up to scratch. by the time your at our place to play us all the players will be fit and playing there best and then we'll see who outplays who. All i can say is enjoy the moment and make the most of it while you can!

You can't claim a non-registered player was "missing" HTH

Hmm true you can really thinking about it, ill let you of with that one...

coatsy on another day it could have been 50, imo cockaine is playing better than briscoe who i feel has lost a yard of pace,colbon has been in awful form and again imo thought latus had a decent game,mason well say no more,newton i will give you, thought rovers defended well to be honest, but we where by far the better team

If we had colbon in the side you wouldnt of isolated that left hand side as much, cockayne didnt hae the best of games today but yes i agree brisc wasnt playing well before his injury but i dunno if ben played better then he might of today. So are you telling me when we both have a fully fit side and everyone able to pick your still better? All i can do to that final comment is laugh to myself and

Who just happened to stuff Hudds today.Funny old game.

Sure he was being criticised by quite a few of your fans after you lost away to ST's. Mainly to do with his handling of the high ball.
The targeting of Latus never payed off, down to very good defence by him and the other covering players, but the kicks did put them under a lot of pressure.

TBF i'm surprised we didn't target Fox more, with his lack of confidence at the moment.

The only person your fibbing to is yourself.

Indeed, we won, I was happy we did, but we still didn't play that well, lets not forget Rovers are a club in total meltdown at the moment thanks to Mason/Cockayne, no way was Dobson 100% fit either.

We'll see what happens in Warrington on Monday.

In fairness they have just beaten Leeds and ran Wigan close and we also had Gleeson not fit, Long playing injured and Westerman carrying a knock.

Fibbing to nobody, never put too much emphasis on derby games.

Great win but still 100% convinced that Agar is not the man to take us to the promise land.

I thought we played well TBH. Rovers may not have been very good but we showed some good stuff in attack. Defence on our own line still a worry, although two tries were conceded to huge forward passes.

I expect us to lose heavily at Wire. We've just played a high intensity Derby game and they've had a training session against Salford. Plus we'll be missing Long who was my MOM yesterday. If we can keep the score respectable I'll be reasonably happy TBH.

We will no doubt lose on Monday but then another loss to saints the following monday leaves us with 4 wins from 13 games which is completely unacceptable.

For me; (I am ecstatic over the win and general performance)

1. I am still a little concerned over the way our interchanges go
2. Wrong options in attack, at times we seem to all stop, and then the player with the ball comes back inside instead of continuing the play left or right.
3. Not enough support play still (athough it was much superior yesterday, so lets hope it continues)
4. Poor defense in our own 30

We were far superior to rovers, but at best, I think we are an average side. 7/8th at best.

Great day yesterday. Derby victory, in the sunshine, cracking atmosphere and Willie Manu providing a moment we'll be talking about for years to come.

But the OP is right, the victory only temporarily deflects attention away from the fundamental problems which continue to hold us back from challenging at the top of the game (lack of quality on the playing side, our doubts about the coach). We've been down this road before, particularly last year. Every time we have a cracking win, all is rosy in the garden. But, as this side have proved time after time, we can't maintain that level consistently.

All 14 teams in SL will have their moments this season when they look like contenders, witness Crusaders yesterday. But when the business end of the season arrives it will be the usual suspects fighting it out for the prizes. We all know that will not be us.

We will still have the odd game where we look capable but overall we will continue to flatter to deceive whilst the current heirachy (board, coaching staff & playing roster) remains in place.

Still really enjoying today though. Basking in the sunshine (and the afterglow of a Derby victory

).

We have a victory - some fans enjoy it for what it is - a victory. Then we get someone coming on claiming that we all think that "everything in the garden is rosy". Where have people said that ? Fans enjoying a victory doesn't mean that all of a sudden everyone thinks we're world beaters. You are making a connection that doesn't exist. I would think that most fans fear the worst on Monday.

Remember semifinal and final of the cup in 2005,nobody gave us a chance



you just never know

I agree with you we obviously have a chance and I will pray for victory. It's just that we do it seriously tough at Easter year in year out.

Sorry, wrong choice of words. I was just agreeing with the OP in that a one off victory doesn't alter the bigger picture, the one were we continually flatter to deceive. We always feel better in the immediate aftermath of a victory, particularly a derby win, only to be brought back down to earth soon after.

I think nearly all of us now realise that one victory isn't going to suddenly propel us above Wigan/Wire/Sts and this weekend will probably be another affirmation of that. I'm the same as everyone else today, merely enjoying yesterday's game for what it was, no more no less.

Like I said, it was a wrong choice of words. That's the problem with Internet forums, pretty easy to put your point across wrongly.

to post as quickly as you did i take it you were not at the game

And?

Your point is what exactly?

Do I assume from your reply that you struggle with basic English comprehension?

Optimistic now?