If I win the euro millions I'll buy the club, which is more likely than agar winning us the GF

Spot on. Great post.

This is what I was trying to say in my post above and you said it better in a couple of sentences. Fourth is great to be in but getting there we've endured some shambolic performances and have got there off the back of beating Catalan and Cas.

Despite what some people have hinted around on here, we do have a squad worthy of a top four place in the table.

Think where we would be if we had beaten Crusaders, Salford & Quins.

Think where we could get to when we get Horne, Berrigan, Manu etc back on the park.

We have to be both optimistic and realistic; we will get into the play-offs which will be a considerable improvement on the last two seasons (and we should be satisfied with that) but in all honesty I can't see us staying in the top four.

like i said earlier your allowed your say but to put it on a shirt is quite silly

Do you not think with the squad that we have though it is not unreasonable to expect to be challenging in and around the top four?

On paper yes. But to use a cliche RL matches are not played on paper. There is also a difference between challenging in and around the top four (which we are doing) and finishing in the top four, which I don't think we will.

Of course, it's easy having a good squad on paper it's not as easy putting the performances week in and week out but I don't think it's unreasonable to say with the current squad we should have hope we can finish in the top four. If we don't then I think Agar's position should be seriously looked at.

As I said earlier I'm undecided on whether I want Agar out now or not but by giving him a two-year deal the board have made a rod for their own back. It's unthinkable to look at the the majority of performances this season and say the style of rugby we play is worthy of a long contract.

would look like AGAROUT otherwise



and thats daft cos he plays for Catalan dont he

I agree with you about the contract extension but I think the wheels would have to seriously fall off the rest of our season before Agar's position would be looked at. The board would regard top 6 as a successful season and I think top 8 would be enough to keep his job.

I don't understand some poeple!!

I agree. I posted on another thread recently that the brand of rugby we largely play is probably enough to see us finish in the playoffs every year barring excessive circumstances, but I don't honestly believe it will ever be enough for us to be in with a genuine chance of winning anything. At crunch time in the big games, we are wanting.

As for on topic, where do reckon he got that done? It would be all kinds of ironic if it was in the club shop!

That's where Agar's downfall comes into it, he's probably not the man to take us to that top three/four level. The squad is good enough the coaching staff probably arn't.

He is right Agar out .".He was at the game "

I do if you give some people the moon they want the Sun as well.. ps and "I don't mean the morning paper" Why not wait till October and see if we make the GF ..In the meantime let enjoy our Win's

So two wins against poor opposition is giving FC fans 'the moon'?

With attitudes like that amongst our fans it's no wonder the board continue to abuse our loyalty like they do.

Some people are carrying on like we've only won 2 games this season!

We have beaten saints, hudds, Bradford and our other top 8 challengers wakey.

well done for the shirt print! At least sum1s doin sumthing for their beleifs rather than moaning on here! Although 4th in the table is a great position at this moment lets see where we are at the buisness end (hopefully top 4 and finalists!) And lets gauge our current standard of performance against a form side like saints to see how far we have developed with agars team

I find it hard to credit that some people are actually moaning about being in 4th spot after our last two seasons.

How can people say that we can't gauge how far we've come by 2 easy wins and that we must use Sts as the benchmark?? Is that just an excuse to get the moaners out again, cos i fully expect us to lose vs Sts...... Last year we lost 18-6 to Catalan and 40-18 to Cas, can't we just say well done on a massive improvement??

Everybody wants Agar out and saying Maguire etc... would do a far better job with that team. I'd like to know where or how rather then just predicting/guessing. The way i see it;

Long: Can't be any better, Agar cannot get any more out of him
O'Meley: Looks like the signing of the season, and playing like one of the best in superleague. Agar cannot get any more out of him.
Fitzy: Excellent, cannot get any more out of him.
R.Horne: He even got Rich Horne playing well before his injury and he started to look more like the player we expect him to be.

What more do people want our coach to do?? We're 4th FFS and people still moan!!

Why do you expect us to lose to Saints ?

Some people will always will dislike the current coach no matter whos in charge, I'm backing Agar for now but I admit that would change if we don't make the top 8.

Positions right now still mean jack! Ok we are 4th but afte the next game we could easily be 7th. The important thing is we are in a group of 4 teams just behind the leaders that are competing for the spots 4-7. Some weeks we will be up in 4th and some weeks we will be down in 7th but the point is the longer we can compete the better. I still expect Leeds to move into the top four and along with the other three that won't change. 5th to 8th is very much open and that is where I expected us to be challenging anyway.

We are in an excellent position right now and with a week off and players coming back from injury there is a lot to feel positive about.

Sorry, i wasn't overly clear!!

Sts have hit a ridiculously high level of form recently (albeit vs weak opposition

) They are scoring alot of points at will and we aren't quite at that level yet!!
We can beat Sts and i hope we do, but i just fear a defeat and there would be no shame in a defeat IMO. All we asked for was a major improvement on last year so as long as it's not 6-30 then i won't worry!! However if we win, I'll be chuffed to bits!!

Recently must mean the last game cause Salford arent the greatest side.

Yup. I still expect us to finish somewhere in 6th to 8th place, although if Huddersfield continue to implode then that opens up 5th as a possibility IMO. We're in a good position with important players still to return, so plenty of positives.