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| he will be a big lad when he grows up
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| Straight in to full time training.
Bit confused as I thought he'd be non fed?
Good luck to the lad.
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| Apparently he has a good offload and enjoys running angles.
As soon as Agar has taught this out of him he will be brought in to play on the wing
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Straight in to full time training.
Bit confused as I thought he'd be non fed?
Good luck to the lad.'" Been trying to find clarification on the web for a while, but with no luck.
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| The rules state that a player is classed as a non fed player if he has not been one of the following for 3 full seasons prior to his 21st birthday
(a) trained at that club or (b) trained at another club within the same Federation, or who are (c) registered Academy players at that club.
Information taken from [urlhttp://www.rleague.com/db/article.php?id=30697[/url which details the simon finnegan case. It's a couple of years old but I don't think the rules have been challenged or changed
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| Quote ="Willa"The rules state that a player is classed as a non fed player if he has not been one of the following for 3 full seasons prior to his 21st birthday
(a) trained at that club or (b) trained at another club within the same Federation, or who are (c) registered Academy players at that club.
Information taken from [urlhttp://www.rleague.com/db/article.php?id=30697[/url which details the simon finnegan case. It's a couple of years old but I don't think the rules have been challenged or changed'"
Correct, also if he's under the age of 21, he can be classed as a club trained player.
How old is the kid by the way?
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| Have I missed something, I assumed he was English as he had played for a couple of other Union teams so cannot understand the non fed trained bit. Surely if he was born in this country then he can play for whoever he wishes, dont recall a problem when we signed that full back from Ionians, James Greene?????
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| Quote ="gazcoops"Correct, also if he's under the age of 21, he can be classed as a club trained player.
How old is the kid by the way?'"
Played for Yorkshire U20's this season so assume he is 20 at the very most.
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| Interesting signing, hopfully he will come good, Hull must have been impressed with him enough to offer him a deal until the end of 2011, I would guess other teams RL or RU where looking at him.
Moved codes at a good age, certainly got the right attributes about him.
Hopfully as good as the last Pearce we signed from Union.
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| Quote ="gazcoops"Correct, also if he's under the age of 21, he can be classed as a club trained player.
How old is the kid by the way?'"
I'm guessing that if he is under 21 a similar situation to Lovegrove will be on the cards in that because he is a non-fed player when he starts his contract he would remain that until he leaves that club
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| Quote ="djcXIII"Have I missed something'"
yes
read the article [urlhttp://www.rleague.com/db/article.php?id=30697[/url
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| Quote ="Dave K."Interesting signing, hopfully he will come good, Hull must have been impressed with him enough to offer him a deal until the end of 2011, I would guess other teams RL or RU where looking at him.
Moved codes at a good age, certainly got the right attributes about him.
Hopfully as good as the last Pearce we signed from Union.'"
its not much of a gamble for hull really as he is going to be in the jets program, where he trains part time arounge his college work. It will cost hull very little and im sure its a great move for him too moving to a big organisation like hull yet still study.
Hope he progresses quickly.. he's huge! oww errr missis
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| Quote ="Standee"Huge, yes
Athletic, hmmm
we shall see in time'"
Anyone else remember Mark Jones??
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Anyone else remember Mark Jones??'" yup! he was massive too, didnt look quite as athletic as this kid tho
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| Quote ="djcXIII"Have I missed something, I assumed he was English as he had played for a couple of other Union teams so cannot understand the non fed trained bit. Surely if he was born in this country then he can play for whoever he wishes, dont recall a problem when we signed that full back from Ionians, James Greene?????'"
Whilst everyone still calls it the quota its actually not a quota in the traditional sense anymore. Its all about where you spent your early years developing as a player. The fact he hasn't been fed-trained, fed meaning RL rather than Union in this case, means he is "non-fed trained" currently. I think age does play a part though?
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| Quote ="gazcoops"Correct, also if he's under the age of 21, he can be classed as a club trained player.
How old is the kid by the way?'" He's 19, turns 20 in December.
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| Quote ="Willa"The rules state that a player is classed as a non fed player if he has not been one of the following for 3 full seasons prior to his 21st birthday
(a) trained at that club or (b) trained at another club within the same Federation, or who are (c) registered Academy players at that club.
Information taken from [urlhttp://www.rleague.com/db/article.php?id=30697[/url which details the simon finnegan case. It's a couple of years old but I don't think the rules have been challenged or changed'" That seems a tad unfair! It's like saying we could sign a 14 year old to the academy and like R.Horne he's ready to make his debut at 16, this means he wouldn't be able to without being classed as non-fed.
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| Quote ="Standee"Huge, yes
Athletic, hmmm
we shall see in time'"
looks like a big pudding
mark jones 2
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"He's 19, turns 20 in December.'"
In that case I'm not sure how he can ever play in SL as he won't be able to get 3 full seasons in before he turns 21. Maybe the rules aren't quite as strict as they appear?
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| Quote ="Kosh"In that case I'm not sure how he can ever play in SL as he won't be able to get 3 full seasons in before he turns 21. Maybe the rules aren't quite as strict as they appear?'" As non-fed he can! This in my opinion is were the RFL let themselves down.
The kids only 19, he should be able to switch if he wants.
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| Quote ="Kosh"In that case I'm not sure how he can ever play in SL as he won't be able to get 3 full seasons in before he turns 21. Maybe the rules aren't quite as strict as they appear?'"
maybe there is some way to bypass the rule for siging 'late developers' who are still under 21 but wont get the 3 years in.
Dispenastions have been given to other clubs for certain things havent they
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| An interesting signing, hope it pays off but if it doesn't then we don't really lose much.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"That seems a tad unfair! It's like saying we could sign a 14 year old to the academy and like R.Horne he's ready to make his debut at 16, this means he wouldn't be able to without being classed as non-fed.'"
As I stated before, as long as they are under the age of 21, they will be classed as club trained not non fed/quota.
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| If he's got pace & a good offload can we groom him to be a centre?
A real blockbusting Centre, now that would make a change for us!
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