One positive from the Derby was our defence in the last 20. It was as aggressive as i've seen it for a long long time. Some of the hits were absolute corkers. Tommy Lee in particular put some big hits in.

That now needs to set the standard.

Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"One positive from the Derby was our defence in the last 20. It was as aggressive as i've seen it for a long long time. Some of the hits were absolute corkers. Tommy Lee in particular put some big hits in.

That now needs to set the standard.'"

Its almost impossible to keep that intensity for 80 mins. Our line speed and big hits suffer because our forwards have to play such long periods without been substituted. Improve the rotation and that will keep those aspects to higher intensity.

Agree when we got into them in last 20 it was fantastic and if we'd been able to hold the ball for 6 we'd have won.

Saying this i can't see why we didnt start like that. my only thought is that the forwards knew they were gonna be on for long periods so tried to pace themselves. clutching at straws but only thing i can think of

Seems to be pretty acurate for me. Manu is stifled because he knows he isn't getting a break and the forwards know they are putting in a minimum of 60mins if they are lucky.

But we should have started stronger and not have left it to the last 20 mins . We had ample time within that first half to demonstrate that "intensity in defense" in that first half.

i agree we should start like this. baffles me why we dont try that tactic and try keep them fresh by rotating. seems too easy a plan to work doesnt it?

i said couple of weeks ago id use dowes and cusack to spell ewach other. and king, thacks, moa whichever plays to spell each other in the front row

tickle manu radford and burnett when hes fit to rotate 2nd rows

we get 12 interchanges.........any idea how many we actually use?

Bingo!!!!!!....we have a winner.can we have a check please?

So some of the forwards might be looking at a lengthy spell on the pitch!!!!
Isn't it what they train for? You confront what happens there and then, you don't think "I won't bother too hard because I've got another half an hour before they sub me". As for the poor kick chase resulting in kicks going straight to a defender, BS. Pi$$ poor kicks result in the ball going straight to a defender. Hull have the one of the worst kicking games in the league and have done for years. Horne will never have a kicking game while I have a hole in my anorak and Thorman fairs little better. Agar should be showing the Hull players the vid of Berrigan's 40/20 time and again just to reinforce the rule to them.

Indeed!! But why see that real reasons when Thorman can get knocked instead! (surprised Calderwood hasnt been blamed yet too)

I also believe Horne was the one who took Cooke's dummy. Hall does worry me though with his one handed carry. It's an accident waiting to happen especially at FB and the coach should pull him up for it.

TBH he hadnt even collected the ball properly when he was tackled. Hall for me isnt at fault at all for that try. Agree though he carries too loosely sometimes.

Horne did take the dummy leaving Tickle to look silly for Cookes try.

I wasn't suggesting Hall was to blame Dave, the shocker of a pass was. I was just highlighting something else Agar should be addressing.

It was Horne's fault that try, Hall had no chance tbh.

I could think of at least another 30 or 40 things Agar should be addressing, including various things that he is doing to let us down too. Doubt any of them will though, his incompetence is number 37 on the list to remedy!!

So he was at fault for 2 tries and Thorman, Hall, Tommy Lee, Calderwood are all to blame for some on here!!

On here nobody has a clue, sack this and scak that, what a joke our fans are.

We get turned over today then Friday....then what?

How do you SCAK someone?



There again as you say, you dont have a clue

I'd sack Agar and Sharp, its an opinion i guess!

sack everyone - everywhere

We get turned over today, it would be fully expected.

We have some issues to sort out I am not saying we don't but all this sack the coach, the board etc, its way ott. Lets sack another coach eh, what sort of reputation will that get us.

We claim to be great fans yet the moment something goes against us we all starting calling for the board and coach to be sacked.

sack the fans!

Just playing devil's advocate here. So how long do you sit there and watch inept performances without voicing your concerns? On current form we might scrape the POs thanks to the stupid 8 from 14 scenario. That's not to say form won't or can't turn around but can you seriously see Hull doing any damage in the POs should they qualify?

I don't know, surely give him the season?