Agree there Dave, its lacking quality off both sides.

Worryingly Hudds seem to be making easy yards.

And how poor has Tom being under the bomb?

They are winning the foward battle, main difference is the kicking at the end of the set.

They have 2 very good halfbacks we have a hooker and a LF.

Horne is having a great game at FB though.

Not enjoying this game at all. Too many mistakes from both sides and we're looking second best in most departments. Surprised we're only 2 points behind TBH.

Did I mention that our edge defence is looking poor again?

awful today, you can look to the wingers but the full sliding defence has been poor.

Westerman and obst isn't working.

Needs to change

Seem to have forgotten how to pass as well. Back to the FC of the opening few weeks at the moment.

Not sure what options we have TBH.

Get Horne back at 6.

Or Turner

We've looked poor all around today. Briscoe has had a shocker, hasn't made as many yards in attack as usual and looks scared stiff under the bomb. 30 minutes left and we're still in it. Obst is having an extremely average game too IMO, showing why he's not good enough to be our number 7 full time if we want to challenge.

Boom.

Hope Grix is OK after that.

Poor decision.

Never a penalty.

Hope Grixi is Ok

Hope Grix is ok but it's a terrible decision, talked into it by Brown.

that was a perfect tackle, I have seen a worrying trend recently that our game is getting very soft
recently

Not convinced that was a high tackle myself - looked like it was Yeaman's shoulder that did the damage.

Not good seeing a player stretchered off.

Its balls, while i hope Grix is ok we can't just give penalties if someone leaves on a stretcher.

Someone told Halibut it was a high tackle over his earpiece. Now, I doubt it was a touchy given how long it took so I reckon it was the VR/4th official. I thought that was against the rules?

Kicking game has been poor today.

Hudds kicking great

ours embarrassing.

FFS

It's not been against the rules for about five years, so you're showing a knowledge of the game that is about as up-to-date as whoever does the recruitment for Hull FC.

Grix goes off the field after a shoulder straight through his chin, so let's blame Alibert for how poor Hull are.

I wasn't sure which is why I said [iI thought[/i. I also thought that the ref had to ask rather than the info being volunteered, but again I'm open to being corrected.


Take a look at this thread and see who I'm blaming for our performance today. I'll give you a clue - it's not a Frenchman.

*sigh*

We really haven't turned up today, have we. Too many players having below par performances.

Stupid tackle from Yeaman there as well.

We need a halfback who can kick.

Brough is educating us today.