We paid Cas £150000 for westerman with a year left on his contract

He was picked for England this time last year. £100k minimum for me if I was selling

Surely if we have 8000 season ticket holders, 8000 have already paid, or did season ticket holders have to pay for so called "play-off " games, or are you saying we had 6000 walk up and paid supporters

He had the potential tag when we bought him. Think that's been lost over the last few years, people now know what they getting, a bang average super league player

Think calling him bang average is a bit harsh. To me he's inconsistent. He can be outstanding one week but goes missing the next week (same can be said for a lot of our players). If a team can get consistency out of him (whether it's ourselves or someone else) then they'll have a very good player on their hands.

Over 3 seasons, and no more than a handful of good performances, I think average is a good assessment, only my opinion of course

Of course. As mine is mine. I'd say he's delivered more than a handful of good performances for us. For me, his best season was the 2014 season and he rightly earned his England call up.

He would get in most sl teams hes that bang average,only my opinion of course

He's wanted by Wire and Leeds who must be willing to pay a fee.

Bang average indeed.

So bang average that the treble winners want him in their side

I'm amazed how difficult this is to understand.
Let's put it another way. Between 2000 and 3000 passholders didn't go to the Huddersfield game.
The club still got their money, as Super8's are included in season passes.
But if that number is reflected in next seasons sales, that adds up to a big shortfall.

If , but, blah blah blah, season passes will be fine, and walk up support will make up for any shortfalls. in fact he'll make more money because it cost us walk up fans more. Come the start of the season us rugby fans wont be able to help ourselves, we'll continue putting ourselves through it

A lot of speculation about Westerman, lets see who he ends up at, who pays a fee etc. Hull will be a better team without him "if" he is to leave. Time will tell I guess, but he'll be as average in a Leeds or Warrington team

You may be right but if you're basing your opinion on how he plays for us it may not turn out how you expect.
If (and it's a big if) he does end up at the rhinos I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him do a lot better. They have better coaching and a winning culture that would only give him a better chance at succeeding.

Plus the fact that Rhinos do seem to be able to deal with wayward sons, if the rumour mill is true about Joe??????.

A change of scenery would do him good, on his day I think Westerman is a top loose man but occasionally his attitude lets him down. Certainly he was pulling up trees and made a good showing in the international appearance IMO.
Less focus on him and a tighter ship will help if he has any intentions of regaining rep honours.

No idea if the link to leeds rumours are true but reckon if they do sign him McDermott will ask him to start off playing a much simpler game to get him settled in. A bit like stevie ward and Delaney do now. Make tackles and carry ball to set positions on the pitch. This will take pressure off him a bit. For me at times for fc he looked like a guy trying too hard to do everything and win game on his own. Wire will probably offer more coin than uncle gary hough.

Someone said previously that Leeds have a winning culture. They perform consistently for the most part. I said previously that, for me, Westy's inconsistent but I also said that it's not just him. Perhaps by going to a more consistent team he'll gain that consistency either by raising his game or through having the pressure taken off him knowing there's other game winners around him.

Given Wire's struggles this season I'm not sure he'd find that consistency with them.

If Westerman has already signed for another club I very much doubt AP would release this transfer news until after the price freeze date had gone for memberships anyway, but I would suggest if he does go after him stating 'he will be sold over my dead body' statement then his credibility would be terminally damaged.

We appreciate your thoughts Structured.

No D&G we don't. He's a typical Dobbins troll.

If leeds are in for him think they may want to sign him before next friday when they play New Zealand. Leeds missing a lot for that game and have brought back Adrian morley and Ali lauititi for one night. Hetherington would probably like a new signing playing to put some on the gate and improve team. Crooks and schofield are next in line for a call

Don't think there are many tickets left for the game don't think they need to put any numbers on the gate. The treble and two returning past players have done that

We have a winner at last!

Westerman has already signed for Warrington. Fact.

The fact that Pearson spins such nonsense to the contrary is an insult quite frankly.

Don't believe me?

Watch this space.

Not saying you're wrong, but it would be strange (as it was for Lineham) to sign for a club going in a completely different direction to us.