As the article says, players can leave at any time. See Danny Levi not wishing to stay on at Huddersfield or Wade McKinnon for us in the past. On the other hand you have many more examples of players who love it over here such as Carlos.

The risk in any overseas signing is that the player and/or his family don't settle in the UK regardless of how they play. The good thing is that Clifford and Hoy can help each other adapt.

I think that I read, He says that he is bringing his family over.
Fans can help a lot by making him feel welcome

All overseas players will have the clause
“ compassionate grounds “

Good interview with Mark O'Meley regarding the signings of Hoy and Clifford.

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just hope we can find a big mobile second row although wouldnt mind trying Carlos there in a similar role to Watkins at Salford.Strong, good footwork and a bit of pace with Mitch as his centre partner it could work.
Although the two new Aussie signings are not Smiths signings he will get the best out of them and i for one are looking forward to seeing some attractive rugby next season and with the addition of pace we have hopefully a lot more exciting than what we have been used to.

Could Sutcliffe not play second row and then Griffin, Wynne or Scott at left centre?

I said myself if we don’t bring in another forward then wouldn’t mind seeing Carlos in the back row. As you say, he’s a similar build to Watkins and he’d form a great partnership with Mitch on the right.

Don’t want Griffin or Sutcliffe in the second row.

Posters have gone from 3 months of fretting about connor leaving to now fretting about a routine contract clause.
What if Clifford has a major injury
What if he has mental breakdown
What if ?
We just sit back sign up and enjoy the ride..

My old dad god bless him, used to say
“if me auntie had balls, she’d be me uncle”

Sounds promising, the only thing I don’t like about that article is it’s pretty much a decade since O’Meley left. Where has the time gone?

When was the last time we had a genuine 7 with both a decent running and kicking game?

Who is flapping about the clause, I can't see anyone, a Rovers fan mentioned it and there was a brief discussion about it?

Kevin Dick!!!!

I'm not so sure that Sutcliffe has the size to be a regular second row. He's played there for Leeds and has been ineffective. Centre is his best position.

I'm going to get a pile on here particularly from a certain poster

but if we can't create space on the cap for a new second row, why not give Griffin a chance? fully fit confidence restored under a new coach give him a chance.

Right, I'm off logging off before I get horsewhipped

You was flapping about the Clifford signing, to the point of saying the club should have other plans in place if it fell through plus you did say about “ the clause” which doesn’t exist. All Aussies have a “compassionate grounds” clause.

I was slightly concerned about Clifford signing for which seemed like a gamble from the club (if you listened to media), but it's has paid off this time.

However I wasn't once concerned about the clause, unless you can show me otherwise on this thread, I don't belive the this rumoured clause, but certainly wasn't concerned.

So no flapping about the clause on this thread is there?

Errrmmm, yes there was but I can’t be bothered to go through the motions. The flapping about the signing was ludicrous.

Dave, I’d say slightly concerned does compare well to the flapping n fretting you did over connor … anyway he’s signed for the giants now which as said previously was probably his best and only viable fit.
AP has come up with some exciting signings so let’s hope fans get behind the club and get their passes.
Less negativity on here from some posters would be welcome
At least wait till the season starts

Living here in Melbourne you sometimes see that young men are slightly less beer monsters than UK men.
Jake C mentions going for coffees with his mate - both early 20s and consider going for coffees as a binding social act.

I went to an Apple shop here in Melbourne at 4.30pm just before it shut. The young guy who served me was about 21. I asked him what he was up to after work on this Sunday.

He said he was catching up with a gang of his mates and he said
“ we’re all gonna go out and grab a coffee and something to eat”

i nearly fell over - having spent 42 years in Hull I was sure he’d say “ have a couple of cheeky frothy ones”

Jason Smith wasn’t like that though but the more young men drink coffee and less alcohol then that’s a beautiful thing and this will surely help their careers, as in Texy and Jake.

And also any younger Hull lads !!

He probably thought you were chatting him up and made up an excuse.

I think it is likely generational thing more than a Melbourne vs Hull thing. There have been a few news reports and studies about young people in the UK drinking less than in the past.

Perhaps wanted help with having his [ibarometer[/i getting a good rub-down ready for a new season.

Reading the interview Clifford gave, he talks about it not working out for him and Tex in Newcastle.
The current coach at Newcastle is a bit of a control freak who doesn't let players play their natural games.
The best skill Clifford has is his massive kicking game and his high, floating bombs, and for some reason the coach wouldn't let him do them. He wanted Clifford to kick in a very structured way - none of those wild bombs.
He also had Tex sticking to a very structured game plan, and the funny thing is that after Tex signed for you guys he decided he didn't care about pleasing the coach and started playing his natural unstructured, mercurial attacking style and became our most dangerous attacking player. I think he would get a new contract at Newcastle if he was free now, because he became a different player once he stopped trying to be a poor man's Kalyn Ponga (do you use that saying in England?).
Anyway, Cliff can put up bombs that come down with snow on them, and Tex is a nightmare for the defence when he runs himself, rather than try to be a playmaker - but both were coached not to do that at Newcastle.

On the boys liking golf and Coffee - for a long time the number 1 ticket holder at the Knights was professional golfer Jack Newton (father of Clint Newton who played for Hull KR). Jack Newton was one of the best Golfers in the world for about 10 years and won majors. He held golf days for the Knights and introduced them to major celebrities etc. Newcastle also has an area very near to where all the players live where there is a real coffee culture, and a surfing culture. A lot of the players spend their off time surfing, but Tex has always avoided that because his father Matt Hoy, was a legendary surfer who was top 10 in the world, and some say the best in the world when he wanted to take it seriously, so Tex avoids being compared to his old man.

Not to pile too much pressure on the kid, but could he be seen as captain material?