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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"It never worked, but to be fair you are up against a good clown on this thread
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Why be disrespectful to me? I have not said a word about any other member on here. I'm just expressing my views, on a team I support. I could have called you from a pig to a dog, saying Luaki is a good player and should be given more time and stuff on the match thread, but did I?
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"[uBut he can play in different positions, so he's a utility.[/u Whiting would not be a Utility player if we had just played him in his normal bloody position! But we couldn't because of injuries, and because of Agars clueless squad selections.'"
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A prop can play 2nd row so does that make them a utility player as well
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I don't want utility though.'"
You NEED some players with utility value. I agree he shouldn't even be considered as a first choice winger next season, but he covers injury reliably in a number of positions.
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| One positive, no more Agar.
I want Sharp on the wing next season not Whiting.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"One positive, no more Agar.
I want Sharp on the wing next season not Whiting.'"
Agreed on both counts.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Agreed on both counts.'"
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| Quote ="Sheldon"1. McKinnon
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3. New centre
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10. New prop
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Briscoe, Lyne, Turner, Crooks, Nicklas, Ellis, Radford, Newton, Adlous, Green, Pearce and Cunningham to complete the squad.'"
Looking forward to see who our other additions will be. Centre has to be priority. And you forgot Kent.
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| I think Whiting deserves the chance of pre season training in a set position, hopefully the second row.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Looking forward to see who our other additions will be. Centre has to be priority. And you forgot Kent.'"
Is he staying?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I think Whiting deserves the chance of pre season training in a set position, hopefully the second row.'"
Indeed. I'm sure RW would agree with both you and those preferring not to see him on the wing.
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"Tonight's positives
- Luaki didn't knock on
- Will Sharp, when he came on, played very well, for me the only player to give a damn! I reckon under the new coach next season, maybe Sharp can make it! (I hope) because he has pace that we need!
- Agar, and the coaching staff are finally fecking off, could they please take Luaki and Washbrook with them.
- We scored two tries
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- Clueless, no heart, no desire, no excuse.
- Agar once again shows he is a clueless coach, god knows what he says to the team before the start of a big game, he just cannot get the team fired up.
- Leeds did not even play that well tonight, we made them look good, and they made us look poop!
Players that need replacing IF we want to start seriously talking about challenging for honors next season.
- Washbrook (OUT)
- Dowes (OUT)
- Luaki (OUT)
- Horne (OUT)
- Phelps (OUT)
- Whiting (OUT)
- OBST (OUT)
- RADFORD (OUT)
The above players need replacing with some quality, out of the above players, I would maybe keep whiting & obst as backup. Whiting for me, lacks too much in the way of pace, and the past good 4-5 games, he's been caught out to many times, a top quality side, has no weakness on their flanks.
As for sharp, I would give him another season under a new coach, just to see what happens, he has the speed, the attitude, and defense (as shown tonight) to make it work for him.
As for Radford, he's brought nothing to Hull F.C over the past few seasons, he never busts a tackle, gives away daft penalties, and before some of you shoot me and say "but he's there for his leadership" bullshizen! where has it been over the past couple of seasons?
Anyhow. Going to be a very depressing close season now, the only thing that will give me hope for next season is the quick or slow departure of the above named players, with new players coming in!
A depressing season, we did not even deserve to make the play-offs, both us and HKR. We was both in there to make the numbers, the most upsetting thing over-all is Hull RUGBY on a whole, has become a laughing stock, and teams love playing us. In the past people use to hate playing against us, now the big teams think, easy 2 points!
That's all I have to say really, to cap off a very disappointing season
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Me? I will put down the statement you want Whiting out as a brain fart due to you being a tad low at the moment.
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| Whiting is a good back up player and nothing more than me . I don't see him starting if we want to be challenging for honours but a great squad player
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I think Whiting deserves the chance of pre season training in a set position, hopefully the second row.'"
Judging by how he was holding his arm at the end, I doubt he'll be doing much pre season at all.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Judging by how he was holding his arm at the end, I doubt he'll be doing much pre season at all.
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Thought it looked like a bruised or busted rib myself.Not that I am any expert.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You NEED some players with utility value. I agree he shouldn't even be considered as a first choice winger next season, but he covers injury reliably in a number of positions.'"
Think horne should be used as cover at / FB and not play in the halves. Whiting can cover most positions and so should not be allowed to leave.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Thought it looked like a bruised or busted rib myself.Not that I am any expert.'"
Ribs and shoulder according to Agar. Would need to check with Webb exactly where he assaulted him.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Ribs and shoulder according to Agar. Would need to check with Webb exactly where he assaulted him.'" there was a defo knee in the face
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| ive said all along that jamie ellis should start as 7 next season yes hes young and will no doubt make mistakes and is unproven but as a team we would play much better with him in team rather then horne.
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| get sharp back on the wing,get his confidence back,hes a out and out winger,also thought he did well tonight.
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| Quote ="wolfie"get sharp back on the wing,get his confidence back,hes a out and out winger,also thought he did well tonight.'"
or sign a quality winger and leave turner to develop in the centre who has improved alot this year
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| Quote ="arliebird"ive said all along that jamie ellis should start as 7 next season yes hes young and will no doubt make mistakes and is unproven but as a team we would play much better with him in team rather then horne.'"
I really hope we see a lot of Ellis next season. He's 22 in next month and is in the top 3 for Championship player of the year. He's got lots of attributes to lack and IMO would have made a difference for FC today on last tackle plays if only because he doesn't just hack the ball dead on the last but actually tries to get the ball in the dead ball area, often via the posts. If we even had some sort of gameplan based around that it would be an improvement. I've said before, but he reminds me of Cooke a bit. We've taken a punt on the signing, worst of all worlds for club and player for him to play U20s IMO.
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| Quote ="wolfie"get sharp back on the wing,get his confidence back,hes a out and out winger,also thought he did well tonight.'" Agreed Wolfie. Should never have been pulled form the team in the first place, imo.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I really hope we see a lot of Ellis next season. He's 22 in next month and is in the [utop 3 for Championship player of the year.[/u He's got lots of attributes to lack and IMO would have made a difference for FC today on last tackle plays if only because he doesn't just hack the ball dead on the last but actually tries to get the ball in the dead ball area, often via the posts. If we even had some sort of gameplan based around that it would be an improvement. I've said before, but he reminds me of Cooke a bit. We've taken a punt on the signing, worst of all worlds for club and player for him to play U20s IMO.'"
Also nominated for young player of the year.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I really hope we see a lot of Ellis next season. He's 22 in next month and is in the top 3 for Championship player of the year. He's got lots of attributes to lack and IMO would have made a difference for FC today on last tackle plays if only because he doesn't just hack the ball dead on the last but actually tries to get the ball in the dead ball area, often via the posts. If we even had some sort of gameplan based around that it would be an improvement. I've said before, but he reminds me of Cooke a bit. We've taken a punt on the signing, worst of all worlds for club and player for him to play U20s IMO.'" Said it months ago that we should play Ellis at 7 and Seymour at 6. Seymour is a 6 been made to play 7.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I really hope we see a lot of Ellis next season. He's 22 in next month and is in the top 3 for Championship player of the year. He's got lots of attributes to lack and IMO would have made a difference for FC today on last tackle plays if only because he doesn't just hack the ball dead on the last but actually tries to get the ball in the dead ball area, often via the posts. If we even had some sort of gameplan based around that it would be an improvement. I've said before, but he reminds me of Cooke a bit. We've taken a punt on the signing, worst of all worlds for club and player for him to play U20s IMO.'"
i rate him very highly a proper natural half that controls a game but structures the attack very very well, for me horne and seymour are similar players and we would be much better with ellis at 7 first reciever with seymour and then mckinnon playing out the back of ellis. also ellis kicking game is very good and along with seymour and heremia that departant could be very good
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