The club is truely blessed with loyal supporters who would turn up to watch 13 black & white statues (some times I think we may have). I think that says more about the spirit of the people of Hull more than anything the club does or does not do.

That said although the fans turn up in their numbers with differing levels of partisan support, people are not idiots. We are weathering the worst recession on record with incredibly high unemployment levels, rising petrol prices & an immenent increase in VAT, this coupled with a percieved lack of a top level half back pairing and a negative style of play will understandably make people think twice with regards to parting with what is now a significant entrance fee.

That said as we all know we are only two good friendly wins away from believing we will win the league again.

It's pathetic if people are not going because of who is running the club or coaching the team or indeed playing for the team. Especially given what we have put up with in the past.

I guess for some people it's probably a combination of things. My dad doesn't go because of the cost. I'm not going because i've finally got fed-up of watching the same boring rugby. I bought a pass last year because i enjoy the laugh with my mates. The cost of the pass and the boring rugby as well as now having a job away from home mon-fri has made me decide not to renew. There's only so much some of us will tolerate. I class myself as a loyal fan black & white through and through. I will not however give my money in return for nothing. (and i guess i look for more of a return or a slightly different return to what other do on here, which has been established over time by the debate around results vs performance etc)

As Wolfie said earlier 'it's your call'.

If your belief is that your 'giving your money in return for nothing' I would suggest you've made the right decision!

I haven't renewed the passes for my wife and I yet. Also bought a pass for my son last year which we will not be renewing.
The real reason for this is the rugby is boring. Not just at Hull but thoughout the game. Four drives, one spread and a kick is the tactics of most teams. There is probably more kicking now in a Super League game than in some of the recent Rugby Union games on Sky although most still refer the the game as Kick and Clap. The kicking in RL needs to be reduced. If kicked dead, or made dead by a defender in the In Goal area the start should be moved to the half way line thus punishing the poor kick. This would bring back the need for the crafty half back to break down teams with ball handling skills.
I'll probably still renew our passes because it's in the blood but I do question my sanity when as we are leaving for a game my wife asks "shall I take my book with me?". Sums up the entertainment factor for me.

Yup, thats my thinking. By my reckoning it'll save me around £1k-£1.5k with beer money and away trips. On that basis i've booked an all inclusive holiday and think that's a better option for me and my family to get value for money.

Parents getting theirs today to join the rest of us!

Could not agree more about the kicking.

Would like to see trys that come from kicks reduced to 3 points, in order to encourage trys from passing.

I'm not sure altering the reward will change anything. I believe the reason why more tries now come from kicks is because of the increased fitness levels of defenders and because of defenders better techniques through more advanced coaching etc as the game has evolved. It may be better to look at other options like quickening the ptb through not allowing the wrestle

I think im the only person on here who enjoys the whole wrestling aspect as some skills are technically superb. If we get rid of the wrestle all what will happen is we will go back to scooting from acting half been what wins you games, which was the case when Saints were dominant. Also halves wont need any skill to unlock a defence that is retreating.

The wrestle for me is what really takes the pace out of our game and makes it largely boring. Halves dont have the skills to breach a set defence meaning the tries that are scored are from individuals falling off tackles or short kicks. Maybe it's the way that our game is going to try to encourage more skillful plays to break a defence but i've not seen the skill levels increase in SL in recent years to do this. The best players in SL are the Mcguires and Tomkins who have the individual brilliance to step and run through the gaps. Serious lack of decent ball players in our league imo.

I agree but i dont think the solution is to make it earier just because some players lack the individual skill to break open a structured defence. The only thing that needs changing is that refs need to understand when a player has earnt the right to slow the PTB down and clamp down on players who slow it down without earning the right because it seems as though now refs just count in their head and blow for the penalty regardless of the circumstances.

Fully agree. I don't mind change, and like plenty of aspects of the current top-flight competition, including summer rugby, SL format with play-offs etc, and generally do a bit of eye-rolling when people hark back to the "good old days". But having recently watched the 1991 Premiership DVD, was surprised at how much more the game depended on skill, pace and sleight of hand compared to the modern rather dull wrestle-fest, and this with a team comprised mainly of part-timers. A bit depressing. Or maybe I'm just getting old.

But the problem lies therein. Coaches work more on slowing the ptb down legally than they work on creative plays. (in general)

I'd like to see coaches work on creativity like Wigan as well as the wrestle rather than relying on a short kicking game. (i actually would like to see the refs enforce the law like it used to be when the tackler had to role away, no wrestle at all)

I was thinking exactly the same. I must be getting old too then!! (not that you're old!)

I haven't renewed and have no intention of doing so. I'll still attend the majority of games though.

Interested to know why you've not renewed but will be attending?

I haven't renewed mine either and have no intention of going to any home games.

Quite a few reasons really, how long have you got?

Not long enough by the sounds of it.

my dads FC and hasnt renewed either, hes going to pick and choose his games next season, which probably means he will go against the top sides but not the bottom sides when the games might be a bit dull.

Personally I don't think you can predict which are going to be the good games. Taking last season, you'd have paid £23 on the gate to see us get smashed by Wigan, and missed a last-gasp thriller v Crusaders using that logic. May as well take the financial pain now which works out @ £15 a game for South Stand IMO.

it wouldnt have cost him anyway, the pass would have been an xmas pressie, so i dont really get why he wants to pick and choose.

I renewed my pass today around 12 o'clock and was surprised by the size of the queue which went outside the ticket office by about 6 to 8 people when I arrived. I have renewed on the last couple of days for the past 5 or 6 years and the demand today was greater than previous years. I also noticed the four people in front of me that I was within earshot of their transaction, had all been pass holders in the past but none of them had a pass in 2010. I think this is a positive sign that a significant number of people have decided not to renew in 2011 for absolutely valid reasons (mainly the freedom of choice or for economic reasons), however, I think for everyone that does not renew a new or a returning lapsed passholder may fill that void. I expect that James Rule and Tony Sutton will be happy with the churn rate Hull FC experience with season passholders. Somebody somewhere is doing something right to get the vast majority of us to part with our cash year on year.

well this board next year will be very quiet after games considering no one buying season passes