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| Quote ="garry brindley"Do the stats on the Super League site not include playoffs then?'"
Long played in rounds 1,2,6,7,8,9,10, 14,15,16,17,18,19 and 27, ie 14 games in the regular season of 27 rounds, then in the play-off, so 15 appearances from a possible 28.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Long played in rounds 1,2,6,7,8,9,10, 14,15,16,17,18,19 and 27, ie 14 games in the regular season of 27 rounds, then in the play-off, so 15 appearances from a possible 28.'"
I stand corrected then, the stats on the SL site must only take into account regular season games cos it says Long made 14 apps.
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| with Berrigan going you should be able to sign a top half back to cover any possible injuries to Long or Horne so why all the bickering?
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| Quote ="garry brindley"I stand corrected then, the stats on the SL site must only take into account regular season games cos it says Long made 14 apps.'"
14 out of 28 would still be 50% though. You said "less than 50%".
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"with Berrigan going you should be able to sign a top half back to cover any possible injuries to Long or Horne so why all the bickering?'" the main problem would be sinigng a top half back at this stage of the year. You would think all of them would be signed up already?
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"the main problem would be sinigng a top half back at this stage of the year. You would think all of them would be signed up already?'"
would you need a top halfback really though?
look at Dobson, Sammut, Witt, Chase and Holdsworth for example, not exactly household names in Aus, yet there all top players over here, and have all been in demand too.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"with Berrigan going [uyou should be able to sign a top half back [/uto cover any possible injuries to Long or Horne so why all the bickering?'"
Who do you suggest that's:
1)Top class
2)Available
3) Willing to come to FC?
Since it's so straightforward, I await your list. 
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"[uwould you need a top halfback really though?[/u
look at Dobson, Sammut, Witt, Chase and Holdsworth for example, not exactly household names in Aus, yet there all top players over here, and have all been in demand too.'"
Make your mind up. 
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Who do you suggest that's:
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Since it's so straightforward, I await your list.
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i keep hearing Cooper Cronks coming next year, maybe Berros big wage might unsettle him enough to come over early.
seriously though, with a big chunk of salary cap you should be able to attract someone half decent.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Another interesting development atlthough possibly unrelated concerns Wakey who despite being the team that when quizzed by Humberside on the possiblity of taking Burnett on a season long loan said they had no money left to spend, are to announce two signings at their Thursday night fans evening!'"
Aye, posted the link from the Wakey site a couple of pages ago. [iIf[/i Burnett were to go and [iIf[/i Berro leaves, plus the tiny bit of cap space we still have left now, we should have a considerable amount of money to spend.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"i keep hearing Cooper Cronks coming next year, maybe Berros big wage might unsettle him enough to come over early.
seriously though, with a big chunk of salary cap you should be able to attract someone half decent.'"
Look, as has already been said, Cronk's a current international, no way would he come to Hull early (if at all, ever), and why would his current club release him? Top half backs are like gold dust, especially at this point in the recruitment cycle.
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| Quote ="weaver93"Regarding Berrigan, we never saw the best of him, as nobody backed up, when he scooted from dummy half.
Until we learn as a team to back up, we will revert to playing akin to a team of 5 year olds.'"
Spot on. There's a reason why people think we get better value for money from O'Meley and Fitzgibbon: it's because their roles don't hinge on the rest of the team, they 'only' need to cart the ball up and hit anything that comes near them. It's at least as much that less is expected of them as it is them offering more. The basic prop's role is the same in any team, the pivotal positions depend on how your team is set up to play.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Look, as has already been said, Cronk's a current international, no way would he come to Hull early (if at all, ever), and why would his current club release him? Top half backs are like gold dust, especially at this point in the recruitment cycle.'"
like i said earlier, do you need a top half back?
im sure Hull would have any of those i listed earlier, and there werent exactly world beaters over there where they? when Rovers first signed Blake green i thought Blake Who??? because he is unheard of, but then i thought the same about those on the list i put up and theyve done very well for there clubs.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Spot on. There's a reason why people think we get better value for money from O'Meley and Fitzgibbon: it's because their roles don't hinge on the rest of the team, they 'only' need to cart the ball up and hit anything that comes near them. It's at least as much that less is expected of them as it is them offering more. The basic prop's role is the same in any team, the pivotal positions depend on how your team is set up to play.'"
So how do you explain the point I made earlier? Or was the team backing up much better in 2008 than it did in 2009 and 2010?
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"like i said earlier, do you need a top half back?
im sure Hull would have any of those i listed earlier, and there werent exactly world beaters over there where they? when Rovers first signed Blake green i thought Blake Who??? because he is unheard of, but then i thought the same about those on the list i put up and theyve done very well for there clubs.'"
At least you admit it, most have been championing the signing without seeing him play and reverting to this 'partnership' with Dobson.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"So how do you explain the point I made earlier? Or was the team backing up much better in 2008 than it did in 2009 and 2010?'"
I don't think your point was valid, simple as that. I don't ever think he's looked average for us, he's always looked one of, if not the, most talented player(s) we have. The team just haven't either been good enough or implemented the right tactics to get the best from him.
We didn't see the best of him in 2008 either, he was just still obviously a cut above every other player we had. As he was again until his injury in 2009 IMO. This last season was patchy, but he had off-field issues which probably contributed to that TBF.
Despite plenty of fans criticising and blaming him, if I was in his shoes I personally would be cursing the day I let Hull FC sell me a vision that turned out to be a mirage. I bet he's every bit as disappointed he traded his peak years to finish his days in a dud side as anyone else.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I don't think your point was valid, simple as that. I don't ever think he's looked average for us, [uhe's always looked one of, if not the, most talented player(s) we have.[/u The team just haven't either been good enough or implemented the right tactics to get the best from him.
We didn't see the best of him in 2008 either, he was just still obviously a cut above every other player we had. As he was again until his injury in 2009 IMO. This last season was patchy, but he had off-field issues which probably contributed to that TBF.
Despite plenty of fans criticising and blaming him, if I was in his shoes I personally would be cursing the day I let Hull FC sell me a vision that turned out to be a mirage. I bet he's every bit as disappointed he traded his peak years to finish his days in a dud side as anyone else.'"

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| There you go Carl deal with that thoughtfully constructed reply.
Zod your one borning er.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Give over
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Along with Houghton, Tansey and Manu. Who else do other teams have to worry about ?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"There you go Carl deal with that thoughtfully constructed reply.
Zod your one borning lover.'"
Who's Zod and what's a borning lover?
If someone says Berrigan has never looked average for us then it's genuinely funny, nothing else to say!
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| Quote ="Sheldon"There you go Carl deal with that thoughtfully constructed reply.
Zod your one borning lover.'"
TBH, I had no intention of commenting on his original bullocks if he hadn't specifically asked. Probably still shouldn't have bothered.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"There you go Carl deal with that thoughtfully constructed reply.
Zod your one borning lover.'"
He's not our resident Rovers troll mate, he is a Hull fc fan of many years
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| Accused of 'talking bollox' by the poster who just said:
Quote ="carl_spackler"I don't think Berrigan has ever looked average for us.'"
I take it Zod is a Rover's fan then, its pretty amusing you all think that just because I pointed out to someone the other day that Rovers have outperformed us in SL 3 years running!
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