That's very very funny

I think the term 'Agar bashing' is a little disingenuous. I'd say 'justified criticism' was more accurate for the most part. It's not like (most) people are getting on his back for no reason.

What I don't understand is why the board thinks that Agar is the way forward. Surely they're not that short sighted to realise that the results and style of rugby played under Agar is actually detrimental to success at this club.. It's as if they can't comprehend that the extra expense of getting a proven coach, like Bennett, Hasler or Bellamy would actually be recouped due to onfield success and higher gate receipts, merchandising etc.

hehe

I get the feeling Agar talks a good game which acts as a smokescreen to the board. They are obviously happy with mediocrity that the fans feel we dont deserve.

Well Paul as much as I hate to admit it you are dead right I am afraid!!
I love my club more than I dislike Agar so now we know where we stand for the forseeable future its now time to get behind the team and hope he comes good!!
I wont finish this thread with any Negatives about him so will just say Cmon Richard, give us a club we are proud of and the club we all deserve please!!!
time to back him now!!
CMON HULLLAAAARRRRRRR

People really need to get to grips with the fact that he is our coach and whether you love him or hate him it's not going to change for the forseeable future. So far this season we are on track for the top 6, which was generally regarded as an achieveable goal, so as of now he is delivering this season.

Question. If we had scraped wins against Salford and Crusaders (and lets be honest we quite easily could have done), and were currently joint top with Wigan, would people still be on here berating Agar. Personally I think people have read too much into a couple of bad results and after the last couple of years they fear the worst. We are a different team this year and I think we will bounce back in style tomorrow.

The bigger issue to me now is that this announcement has been made is that it will mean we are stuck with Radford , Dowes and Yeaman too for a while longer ..
To a certain degree I can accept issues with the coaching (im lying) but I cant accept that we still rely on nearlys and hasbeens to win matches

People are saying it's far too early to give Agar a two year extension, rather than 'berating' him per se. I have made numerous posts when people have been calling for his head saying it's too early to judge him yet. But it's too early to judge him either way and a two year extension at this stage looks very rash.

What about if you neither love him nor hate him, and simply have some concerns over his track record and the timing of a contract extension.

And are we only allowed to discuss things that we can materially affect now? That would rather limit topics of conversation on here.

We do only see the on field results, and while this is undoubtedly far and away the most important factor (especially for fans) maybe there are other factors that we don't see that are weighing in his favour.

And maybe the BOD have a different definition of success to us fans.

I agree that it is too early, but that to me says that England had come knocking and teh board wanted to act fast to keep him. And I'm not saying people can't/shouldn't discuss it, I'm just growing tired of all the so called experts telling us about Agar being a failure. Give it till the end of the season because he hasn't done all that much wrong so far this year.

Just to put things straight Fc are favs tomorrow with billy hills.

Well done to mr rule and the hull fc board on signing up the best coach in Sl.

So they are. Rovers however are favourites with Ladbrokes.

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You are a right to a certain degree, most of the criticism has been constructive but there has been a fair amount unwarranted personal abuse also.

I like many other think he is doing a decent job so far this season and recruited well last season, the question is whether or not he is capable of taking us to the very top, which is where we should be aiming. Only time will tell I guess but if he gets top 6 this season then that has to be regarded as success considering where we finished last season.

I dont get this whole finishing 6th is a sucess mentality people have, with the playing roster we have 6th should be classed as a failure.

same here, a 6th place finish shouldn't be called success, progress from the last two seasons maybe, only if we win a trophy we should be calling it a successful season

I don't think our squad is that good (yet) personally. Where do you think we should be finishing?

4th that said i personally dont think we will even make 6th.

The similarities to last season are alarming as it seems yet again we have been 'found out' by oppositions due to the way we play to the same structures week in week out and never deviate from it. In tomorrows game all we will keep seeing in Rovers 20 is a left shift with Long having to option of hitting Manu/Hame flat or go back door to Tansey on a wedge. I'll be stunned if we dont see that structure at least 8 times in the game on tackle 3.

Success is maybe the wrong word, but it would certainly be progress after our previous two seasons. You can't just go from bottom four to top four.

At the risk of being pedantic, Catalan Dragons did (they actually went bottom 3 to top 3, although that was in the 12 team league).

I honestly can't see how we have the 4th best squad in SL. We only have one (injured) winger for a start. And the rest of the outside backs are a bit hit and miss.

two and a half more years of their being an elephant in the room!