You're amazing.

Typical of the ludicrous sense of entitlement that pervades our fanbase. Every other team's trying for the same and the top 3 are materially better resourced than us. Of the others Huddersfield and Wire have great benefactors. Crazy level of expectation IMO.

Genuinely think looking at our squad for next year we have a real chance of top 4. There is still a big doubt of Radford ' s ability to get us there, so I think we'll come just short and finish in 5th. I would view that as a good steady season,especially if we push on in the Super 8s and run the top 4 close, or sneak in.

Success would be top 4. Obviously then to go on to the final but just top 4 would be a good achievement.

Failure, as everybody has already said, would be to finish below 8th.

Every year we have people claiming we'll finish top 4 and every year we're miles away. Top 4 will likely be the current top 4 unless one of them implodes. les cats, wire and castleford will be hoping to improve and who knows what will happen with rovers, salford and widnes. Talk of top 4 is folly IMO. We'll do well to finish top 6 IMO

It'll never catch on with the delusional on here!

Out of curiosity why is it "Ludicrous", in your eyes and from your comment a top 4 finish impossible then?

Anything less than top 4 is NOT a success, after all if you believe we can't compete with the likes of Huddersfield/Castleford/Saints for that top 4 spot next year then that is rather negative, to look at it another way you have no faith in the coach or squad to win just another what, maybe 4 more games next year.

The minimum expectation from the coach/fans is one of incremental improvement, that by definition is 'acceptable', to consider finising 5 or 6th AND not making the play offs nor even making a semi final a success IS ludicrous, narrow minded and negative.
You want a separate Radford bashing thread yet are making negative comment about Radford and the team as not having a cat in hells chance of making the 4 before this season has finished..hypocrite!

The usual garbage. I was replying to a post that anything less than Top 4 or winning the cup was abject failure. Where did I say we didn't have a cat in hell's chance? Very poor from you. It's the arrogance of expectation when we're under-resourced vs the top 3 and 2 others (Wire and Hudds) that is nonsensical.

I'm just flabbergasted some posters think there's a possibility of getting anywhere near top four and at least a CC semi-final next season when we'll have a [iturnip[/i at the helm.

This is spot on madam

I really can't believe this forum. Just because I don't agree with the ones who think we will do well next season I get slated. Not once have I slated you. I have my opinions and you have yours and I stick to my guns while LR is in charge I can't see much improvement. Those of you that can then let's hope it's true. Mrs B you are so nasty with fans on here because they don't agree with you. Your really should respect others opinions not start WW3 because you don't agree..

Gosh, you're not one for posting so early on a weekend normally. Are you going somewhere nice? You do seem to be enjoying trolling Leeds board this week , so we'll draw our own conclusions



You are a terrible FC poster. Fair enough if you don't rate Radford, you're hardly alone. But your only content is slating him, predicting awful results, banging on about staying away. Nothing when those predictions are comprehensively overturned. Where were you when we beat Saints? Any praise for the derby win losing Ellis and Pryce? You were browsing on here after the Saints game but didn't post, yet were all over it for the Wakey game. Poor effort.

Success would be improvement vs this year. More points scored, more games won, an energised fanbase.

Up early making his/her pack-up and digging out their compass and map.
It's been a long time.

Interesting poster, is Airlie15 (or rather 10+5)

Doom monger in the run up to the Saints Easter Monday game but then disappeared for a few days after the win. Played down our chances of signing Pritchard. Predicted under 7000 for the Widnes game. Couldn't see us beating Salford at home. Predicted Warrington would beat us by at least 40 points at the HJ. Predicted we'd lose at home to Cas.

A regular barrel of laughs.

Call me a pessimist then but again it's my opinion. I do think we have some very good players but you need to play as a team with a good coach and as yet I don't think LR is up to it he needs serious help. By the way you will see I am online all the time as I find it hard logging in it keeps crashing so decided to stay on. That is another reason why you won't see many comments from me

Good wifi at Leicester Forest East.

If you're online all the time, why ignore all wins and post exclusively as articulated by Come On You Ull?

I have to admit airlie 15 doesn't strike me as a Hull fan. This on the 2016 players/rumours thread

"And how do they stand a chance when the club just buy more top players?"

Never seen a fan of any club complain their team is signing 'top' players

When your posting history is exclusively negative and fails to acknowledge any success (eg improving year on year, 3rd placed academy team, good recruitment) I think you can draw your own conclusions. Lump in the cliches of not going anymore, predicting disaster and disappearing when we do better, you've got a full house.

My main specific hope is on support play. We've got a pack of players who can bend the line and promote the offload. It will be unforgivable if we continue to disregard backing up the ball carrier as a key priority.

Still some weaknesses in the squad which I think will stop us competing at the top table. Halfs not consistentlty good enough. sneyd needs to start to stamp his authority on games, pryce I expect will be less effective and more injured and abdul needs to drop some weight but even then we can't rely on a 19/20 year old. 3/4's average at best and no real cover for houghton.

If ellis doesn't come back from his injury we need to spend his salary cap in the backs IMO

Agree with all this. As just said we need to leverage our strength in the pack through eager support of the ball carrier to offset lack of quality 3/4s. Unfortunately it doesn't seem a priority.

I thought support play was better against leeds but mainly due to shaul who has always done it. Interesting that all 4 of the youngsters playing that night looked to "promote" the ball much more than the regular first team do. Different mentality or just lack of experience meaning less fear of it not coming off?

Richard Horne's influence possibly. His linkage with Shaun Briscoe was great. Agree about Shaul but it's a vicious circle. Our attempts to play more expansive rugby have been fraught with errors costing us points. It's not in our mindset so tends to look clunky. If we're going to by to work on one thing in the off season it has to be this. Pointless having a big pack if we're just getting them to cart the ball up and do a bomb on the 5th.

The Tank has a sublime offload that he's exquisitely demonstrated in the Dogs last two games.
Will be criminal if it's not adequately taken advantage of.

Watts is 3rd in SL for offloads (55) also. Need to build around this.

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