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| Typical FC fan snobbery thinking the club is bigger than it actually is. Attendances are falling rapidly just like performances yet most of the people on here are saying that 14K isn't big enough.
You know years ago when there was talk of this cancer at the club well I would say it goes as far as the spectators as well. Far too many fans think just because were well supported that were entitled to win the league just like the players do.
The club AND the fans need a serious rethink about they go about their business. The general air of cockiness and feeling that were better than everyone else is a cancer in itself that holds the club back more than I think people imagine.
We could actually learn a hell of a lot from our red n white neighbours about aspirations and being a club for the fans and the community
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| 100 free tickets in exchange for a £50m stadium, the whole of west park and walton street and a 14,000 rugby stadium. Seems like a fine deal for the council to me
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"We've had twenty-three attendances over 14,000 since the start of the 2006 season.'"
Almost 2 full season of home games
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Typical FC fan snobbery thinking the club is bigger than it actually is. Attendances are falling rapidly just like performances yet most of the people on here are saying that 14K isn't big enough.
You know years ago when there was talk of this cancer at the club well I would say it goes as far as the spectators as well. Far too many fans think just because were well supported that were entitled to win the league just like the players do.
The club AND the fans need a serious rethink about they go about their business. The general air of cockiness and feeling that were better than everyone else is a cancer in itself that holds the club back more than I think people imagine.
We could actually learn a hell of a lot from our red n white neighbours about aspirations and being a club for the fans and the community'"
Where is the snobbery??.......if results improve people come back and for bigger games,it's too small.What could we learn??......how to go into debt building a stand that isn't even selling out,he'll..they can't get over 10,000 and they still have 1end open...if you like the aspirations they have...pi££ off and watch them,you won't be missed
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| This thread is .........BULLSHIT! No chance council would kop the bill for a stadium for us and Pearson isn't exactly 'rolling' in millions he could drop into a 14000 seater stadium, we're always going to be lodgers at city's stadium until Allam fooks off unfortunately. (Unless I get that big euro millions jack pot someday )
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| Quote ="dandaman"This thread is .........BULLSHIT! No chance council would kop the bill for a stadium for us and Pearson isn't exactly 'rolling' in millions he could drop into a 14000 seater stadium, we're always going to be lodgers at city's stadium until Allam fooks off unfortunately. (Unless I get that big euro millions jack pot someday
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We aren't lodgers...........
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| Won't happen but a 14k stadium that we had control over would bring in significantly more cash for the club than our current 25k one
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Typical FC fan snobbery thinking the club is bigger than it actually is. Attendances are falling rapidly just like performances yet most of the people on here are saying that 14K isn't big enough.
You know years ago when there was talk of this cancer at the club well I would say it goes as far as the spectators as well. Far too many fans think just because were well supported that were entitled to win the league just like the players do.
The club AND the fans need a serious rethink about they go about their business. The general air of cockiness and feeling that were better than everyone else is a cancer in itself that holds the club back more than I think people imagine.
We could actually learn a hell of a lot from our red n white neighbours about aspirations and being a club for the fans and the community'"
Respect.
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| And he turned down the offer of a Council managed open top bus trip round the City and City Hall etc. not exactly the actions of a man trying to get well in with the Council. This thread is just a load of rubbish I am sure that Adam would love a purpose built Stadium but no ones going to give him one and he can't afford one in reality can he. It aint gonna happen anytime soon! I would think that the reality of relegation and then how we manage to afford the KC is much more pertinent!
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| I would welcome it .
About a 15000 capacity all enclosed stadium , with terracing would be my choice.
Purpose built for RL on Costello , with a training ground next door .
Let Allam have the KC, and help fund our move to a new ground .
It is time that Allam , Pearson and the Council got together and sorted out any rifts between the relevent parties.
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| Sorry Wilf Jeez. Can't all live breath and walk Hull FC 24hrs.
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| 14k is too small surely ??
20k would be ideal for derby games and play offs...
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Won't happen but a 14k stadium that we had control over would bring in significantly more cash for the club than our current 25k one'"
Particularly if we paid a peppercorn rental.
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"I agree. But we're not even close to finishing runners up again which is what it would take to get back to those attendances on a regular basis IMO. That's why I'd have the stadium smaller to begin with and then expand it if and when we reached those heights again.'"
14k is too small, we average 10k and are not very good atm. The cost difference for a 14k stadium and a 20k stadium, wont be that much imho.
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| Quote ="*1865*"That's nothing, i've heard Allam has been given provisional approval for a 35,000 seater stadium at Melton by ERC.'"
where in melton ?
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| Quote ="seanyboy190909"Sorry Wilf Jeez. Can't all live breath and walk Hull FC 24hrs.'"
Hey I'm not saying it won't happen one day, it would be an ideal solution and I bet we've looked at it but with a local authority that is having to save £25m in two years and an owner who is rich but not that rich and Costello being public open space, even if there is something in it its a long way off!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Particularly if we paid a peppercorn rental.'"
Surely that's a given as it happens at all other council stadia in the city
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| What you do is build a 14.000 4 sided stadium and if you do become really good and need more space you full in the corners to increase capacity
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Typical FC fan snobbery thinking the club is bigger than it actually is. Attendances are falling rapidly just like performances yet most of the people on here are saying that 14K isn't big enough.'"
It isn't, as actual facts prove.
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You know years ago when there was talk of this cancer at the club well I would say it goes as far as the spectators as well. Far too many fans think just because were well supported that were entitled to win the league just like the players do. '"
That was nearly fifteen years ago. All the board, the coach, most of the backroom staff and all but two of the players have gone and yet people like you still go on about it.
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The club AND the fans need a serious rethink about they go about their business. The general air of cockiness and feeling that were better than everyone else is a cancer in itself that holds the club back more than I think people imagine.
We could actually learn a hell of a lot from our red n white neighbours about aspirations and being a club for the fans and the community'"
Who has said that?
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| I know a few people (from the Council side) who would certainly know if this was an option, and they've never mentioned it ever being a possibility.
I've always thought it would be a good option. Somewhere to call your own, and the opportunity to control some of the income streams.
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| HCC cannot fund a new stadium - there is no money in the pot for anything like this. In reality, IF we were ever to leave the KC, it would be on the back of any payoff from our remaining lease - perhaps enough for a ground, but this would need us to be gifted land to develop and getting planning for a stadium is not without its pitfalls.
In reality, the KC is our home and there is nothing imminent to change that. Mind you, if our crowds keep dropping off, we soon wont be paying any rental to the SMC!!!
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| As I said in another thread I don't believe this will happen however, let's say say it was couldn't allam realistically offer council to build a community stadium with us being priority tenants in exchange for the kc? Surely it would be cheaper to build a 14000 seater stadium then a 35000 stadium and it won't upset city fans staying put. Just food for thought
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| Quote ="dandaman"As I said in another thread I don't believe this will happen however, let's say say it was couldn't allam realistically offer council to build a community stadium with us being priority tenants in exchange for the kc? Surely it would be cheaper to build a 14000 seater stadium then a 35000 stadium and it won't upset city fans staying put. Just food for thought'"
Interesting one, though extending the KC to 35K would cost more than a 14K stadium !
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| Quote ="dandaman"As I said in another thread I don't believe this will happen however, let's say say it was couldn't allam realistically offer council to build a community stadium with us being priority tenants in exchange for the kc? Surely it would be cheaper to build a 14000 seater stadium then a 35000 stadium and it won't upset city fans staying put. Just food for thought'"
The issues would remain though.
The Allams want to turn West Park into a Retail complex when there is already significant excess capacity across the city and multiple covenants on the land. The bad blood between the council and the Allams shows no sign of being resolved. And it would cost much more to build a 14k stadium than the Allams would pay as a deal sweetener.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"What you do is build a 14.000 4 sided stadium and if you do become really good and need more space you full in the corners to increase capacity'"
The wind coming through the gaps, would ruin our kicking game.
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