but he is a legend

could never fathom what the hell his role was supposed to be with us at the Rhinos.

Wait until he finds out Richard Agar's coming back as head coach!

seems there is no evidence in any case

Certainly not from the RFL side. Doesn't look like the ref or the officials heard anything and no doubt the game footage will have been reviewed to see if that picked anything up. All going to depend on what London can produce to the contrary if they pursue it.

when you have a bag of money to spend and waste it on Hardaker when Leutele was available plus a second row who cant get into Leighs team i question his ability.
Now from reports we could be interested in Abdul and Satae.
Most on here were glad to see the back of Satae as he was called lazy and Abdul laughed at due to his weight problem yet if we sign them again them the same fans will be saying what great signings
The club is a joke at the moment

No one have said they are great signings.

Just all better than we have.

If these were our only signings then yes I'd worry, but probably going to be at least 6 more players including 3 quota players to come in.

And how do you know he hasn't offered Leutele a deal? Maybe Leutele doesn't want to join us because we are a joke of a club? Having the greatest DOR in the game wouldn't make a blind bit of difference if players don't want to come. Same with the coaches. Perhaps we're adjusting our sights and targets to more realistic options given our current plight?

Like it or not Hardaker, Briscoe, Asiata, Holmes, Abdull and Satae are all improvements on what we currently have.

Thing is you'll whinge at anything, instead of waiting to see the full picture.

You've got it in your head that Myler will be a failure so everyone had to see you rant about it everyday until he leaves.

How much will we be paying him?

And don't say it's "obvious" he'll be on a wedge because it isn't.

Which is fair enough if a stop gap for a year but these will all be on 2 year + contracts

The rebuild required at the club is going to have to be done in stages. Firstly, we will need to assemble a squad who can at least steady the ship, produce slightly more consistency in performance and push us up to around 8th/9th in the table. From there we can then build on that, bringing in better players in order to challenge for a play-off spot and then from there, hopefully, to challenging once more towards the top end of the table.

As you say, the players listed above should help us in part one of the process, their experience alone should move us upward even if it is only slowly, heaven knows they cannot be worse than what we currently have.

We are not going to leap back into the top four in one fell swoop. We are currently sitting on around seven successive years of mistakes, it will probably take another seven years to undo all the wrong turnings we have made in the recent past. No-one decent will come here right now, until we can prove to the game that we have stopped being a basket-case club. If the club adopted a policy of only signing high-quality players we'll be waiting until doomsday for anyone to sign!!

We're going to have to suffer for some time. We are where we are due to our own mistakes and it is going to be a long road back with no short-cuts unfortunately.

Most players will be angling for more than a year though. It's probably the price we have to pay right now. It's well known thanks to Beaumont that they offered Asiata a two year deal for example but we've offered three. If it's the difference between getting a player and not getting a player (even if we consider them a stop gap) then we'll probably have to accept their terms. Players and their agents will likely be in the position of power with us right now.

Great post!

Satae coming back? you were one who said he wouldnt be missed
Abdul laughed at by many on here due to his weight
Briscoe and Hardaker way past their best and Holmes cant even make Leighs first team squad
as i said it wouldnt matter who we signed as most on here will still make a case that its a good signing
just looks to me that there is no real plan in either player aquisition or a new team coach.
Where is the ambition?
If we are going to splash some money on quality like Asiata then Myler should be in Australia meeting
Agents,players and coaches as thats where a decent coach and the right quality players are going to come from

alternatively how do you know that he has?

We shouldnt be paying him anything as he shouldnt be anywhere near the club especially if it a 2 year deal as reported

I don't. But neither do you. And I'm not the one acting as judge, jury and executioner.

Why don't you just give the guy a chance? Instead of telling him that everything he is doing is wrong and acting like you know better and can do better?

Same with our signings. Regardless of what you think, these players are coming or are already here. Get behind them, support them. Instead of writing them off.

As for ambition, we might have ambition. The attempt to get Rowley felt ambitious to me. Signing Asiata feels ambitous. But we also need to be realistic. We're joint bottom and quite frankly we are lucky that it's only joint bottom. That's how bad we are right now. That's the reality and that is going to be offputting for a lot of coaches and players. So it doesn't really matter how ambitious we are if people aren't interested. As BP1 said, we're likely going to have to prove to the game that we are no longer a basket-case before we're treated seriously. Doesn't stop us from being ambitous, doesn't stop us from trying. It just means that the reality won't necessarily match those ambitions.

Great post

He's got a thing about centres. Spent years slagging off Yeaman, then years slagging off Griffin now it'll be Hardaker on every post until September 2026.

He’s got to finish with Sutcliffe first.

Never see Bonaire and Keef in the same place.

I sort of get where you are coming from here, but the stark reality of the situation is that we are in a very weak bargaining position right now. We don't have a lot to put on the table as things stand, and results like yesterday hardly help matters.

Rugby League is a fairly small enclosed sport, it's not like there is an unending supply of top quality players for clubs to pursue. Anyone decent, be they within the NRL or SL, are likely to have more than one potential suitor and, I would guess, we will not be the most attractive option when it comes to persuading quality to join us.

For all any of us know, maybe Myler has been putting out feelers towards potential targets and he has very quickly come to the realisation that top-grade standard players are giving us a very wide berth, and so he has very quickly lowered his sights towards more realistic targets, but even then we are being dictated to by the likes of Hardaker, Holmes, Abdull, Satae and anyone else who we chase, that is the reality of the situation we are in at this moment in time.

We all want to see our club back challenging at the top and no-one on this forum is over-excited about these signings, but we have to start the road back somewhere, and these first steps back do look uninspiring, but the simply alternative is to sit and do nothing and continue going in a backwards direction. We cannot simply click our fingers and the current Australian centres will come running to us.

I get you're brassed off, we all are honestly!, but sometimes you have to accept the reality of the world around you against what you fervently wished the world could be. That is what most of us on here are trying to do. This is not how we wish the situation to be, but what it actually is. Robust debate is always healthy, especially in sport, but you'll feel better with yourself if you confront our situation and accept it, however displeasing that may be.

Come and join the rest of us bonaire, we can all be one happy family together on the long dark road ahead!!

I did say that about Satae and it looks like I was wrong, was hoping Pele turned out like Moa, but that hasn't happened.

We can laugh about Abdul's weight but he is still starting for a team joint top of SL.
Holmes, Briscoe are ok signings, we can't sign 17 new players all world beaters, but better than Mcinhtosh and Lane.

Not happy with Hardraker as I've mentioned.

I'll repeat what I've said to you multiple times, recruitment is not finished yet, probably at least 6 more players to come.