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| Quote ="Windy winger"For me we’ve gone down hill since we tried to create club hull and tried to copy the Wigan method a few years ago . I’d also like to know who decides the contracts amd how much and how long , because it’s been amateurish for years compared to other clubs . This playing squad is so unbalanced and overpaid, surely someone should be held accountable , if it’s Clark how has he got this job from been gearing the crowd up before the game . Also I’d question Carlos has captain, last 2 weeks I’ve watched him now behind the sticks when we’ve conceded, just looks to the sky , seems to be griffin who does the talking . Anyway smith stays for me , can’t get rid of another coach before this bunch over paid so called players. How do some of them go home and look themselves and Their families in the eye and be happy with themselves .'"
What is club hull? What’s involved in moving in that direction?
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| Quote ="hull2524"This season is over. Is it just a case of staying up and making massive changes? I would have thought there is a lot of talking and phone calls being made regarding players. Surely Litten Balmforth Staverly Gardiner Barron Etc deserve a chance. Not to throw them all in together but surely 2/3 in the 17'"
I'd imagine any player that wants to come mid season wants a minimum 2.5 year deal to make it worthwhile so they have to be the quality we need long term or we are just getting into a bigger mess.
We made several loan signings at the end of last season but apart from getting us a Magic Weekend win we are no better off from that wheeling and dealing.
Agree that the the younger players need to be promoted to the 1st team now. There's several first team players I'd happily never see pull the shirt on again.
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| Are there any young players at the big clubs that want first team football but aren't getting the opportunity at their clubs?
We did that in the early 2000s under McRae. We brought in three young lads from Leeds. Gareth Carvell, Gareth Raynor and Ewan Dowes. They all went on to good achievements. Mcrae also blooded young players like Paul Cooke, Paul King, Richard Horne and Kirk Yeaman. They also went on with those lads from Leeds to good achievements.
Get some hungry, enthusiastic youngsters and spend big money on a few experienced leaders to put alongside them.
That's a successful formula. It's a formula that we don't do. And that's why we're a team that has zero chance of challenging.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Are there any young players at the big clubs that want first team football but aren't getting the opportunity at their clubs?
We did that in the early 2000s under McRae. We brought in three young lads from Leeds. Gareth Carvell, Gareth Raynor and Ewan Dowes. They all went on to good achievements. Mcrae also blooded young players like Paul Cooke, Paul King, Richard Horne and Kirk Yeaman. They also went on with those lads from Leeds to good achievements.
Get some hungry, enthusiastic youngsters and spend big money on a few experienced leaders to put alongside them.
That's a successful formula. It's a formula that we don't do. And that's why we're a team that has zero chance of challenging.'"
An acknowledgment at last that FC are not a big club.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Obviously with abridged accounts it's difficult, but Hull have lost about £2.5m since 2011 (think this was when AP took over). We can argue that there have been many poor decisions and also some good ones over this time period, but we are where we are. If we are stuck with a squad of the current calibre because that's all we can afford I'd rather drop down a division tbh. We can't compete at SL currently.'"
Im not privvy to know our out goings but some rough estimates show they must be high for us to be losing money.
7500 members x 200 average pass cost = 1.5 mill
3000 non members x 20 average ticket ptice x 13 home games = 780k
If you say each member spends around on average 25 on merchandise = 187,500k
That totals 2,467,500 million, without TV money and any other sales from programmes, prize money or sponsorships.
Obviousley these are estimates and not facts but to be losing money or not being able to spend at full cap with those numbers is worrying.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"An acknowledgment at last that FC are not a big club.'"
We're not and some fans still need to get to grips with that.
I'd only describe Saints, Wigan and Leeds as big clubs based on history, trophies and stadiums. Warrington almost there but a lack of league titles let's them down. The rest of us, Rovers included just bobble about mid to low in the table and hopefully win a cup if they are lucky.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Im not privvy to know our out goings but some rough estimates show they must be high for us to be losing money.
7500 members x 200 average pass cost = 1.5 mill
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If you say each member spends around on average 25 on merchandise = 187,500k
That totals 2,467,500 million, without TV money and any other sales from programmes, prize money or sponsorships.
Obviousley these are estimates and not facts but to be losing money or not being able to spend at full cap with those numbers is worrying.'"
Agree, we are also told that sponsorship is healthy right now, there's certainly a long list of names being read out when anything is being announced before games. And I believe it has been suggested before we sell the most merchandise in SL.
Questions need to be asked about what salary cap we are spending. It's either we've gone in under the cap and Pearson's kept quiet due to the negative impact on pass sales, or we've spent the cap but have just spent the money badly.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Agree, we are also told that sponsorship is healthy right now, there's certainly a long list of names being read out when anything is being announced before games. And I believe it has been suggested before we sell the most merchandise in SL.
Questions need to be asked about what salary cap we are spending. It's either we've gone in under the cap and Pearson's kept quiet due to the negative impact on pass sales, or we've spent the cap but have just spent the money badly.'"
Ive always believed were no where near cap, when you look at other clubs squads, some seem to have almost 3 or 4 marquesque type players, we have zero.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Which coach?
Bonaire, Dave K or T Smith??....hmm let me think'"
Let me just reiterate, I'm no way saying Smith should be sacked but he isn't untouchable and blameless like many seem to think, I get tinkering with your squad with so many players out of contract, but surley no one thinks Shaul and Evans will be kept on, so why play them? Pete says I doubt the result would have been different if Litten and Brown had played, but surley that's better for the future.
Radford did alot of damage to the club later in his tenure, losing players like Litten and Abdul by not giving them a chance for example, I hope the same doesn't happen here.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Let me just reiterate, I'm no way saying Smith should be sacked but he isn't untouchable and blameless like many seem to think, I get tinkering with your squad with so many players out of contract, but surley no one thinks Shaul and Evans will be kept on, so why play them? Pete says I doubt the result would have been different if Litten and Brown had played, but surley that's better for the future.
Radford did alot of damage to the club later in his tenure, losing players like Litten and Abdul by not giving them a chance for example, I hope the same doesn't happen here.'"
I admit the reluctance to play Brown is baffling.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"An acknowledgment at last that FC are not a big club.'" Big enough to play an important role in your life. You certainly come across like these are your most important opponents. You can't stay away from their fans.you want to be with them all the time.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Let me just reiterate, I'm no way saying Smith should be sacked but he isn't untouchable and blameless like many seem to think, I get tinkering with your squad with so many players out of contract, but surley no one thinks Shaul and Evans will be kept on, so why play them? Pete says I doubt the result would have been different if Litten and Brown had played, but surley that's better for the future.
Radford did alot of damage to the club later in his tenure, losing players like Litten and Abdul by not giving them a chance for example, I hope the same doesn't happen here.'" Litten and Abdul got plenty of chances under Radford. They just didn't take their chances.
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| It could have been worse. That performance could have been at Wembley in a cup final and we could have conceded an extra ten points on top.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Litten and Abdul got plenty of chances under Radford. They just didn't take their chances.'"
That's nonsense, particularly about Litten, played 28 games and in that time I'd bet he played a token 20 minutes in most games, even if Houghton was injured he would rather play Fash or Hadley at hooker.
Abdul had some good games, never really got a good run, since then we have had Reynolds, Gale and McNamara, Abdul had more good games than the three combined.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Big enough to play an important role in your life. You certainly come across like these are your most important opponents. You can't stay away from their fans.you want to be with them all the time.'"
Obviously FC are important as you provide the derbies and the banter. Despite what many people say derby matches are different and provide interest in the City. Our derbies are important to the City and RL in general. I want FC in SL as the competition would be poorer without you and the interest our rivalry engenders. However I am entitled to wallow in your present distress. It was good to see the hurt on the FC fans’ faces as we walked back to the car. Not that there were many of them by the time we left the ground. Sport goes around and comes around and at the moment you are on a big down. The playing staff and finances appear in a parlous state long may your suffering continue.
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| I have no issue with most Rovers fans coming on here to mock us, we would do the same, it's what sport and being rivals is about.
Although if during this spell of dominance they don't win anything it will soon be forgotten, plenty of other times in SL Rovers have been a better side, but no one remembers it, as in the end they didn't achieve anything.
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| Make no mistake about it, we are in serious trouble and i don't think this group have the fight in them to escape relegation
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| Imagine being Pearson and having to pay that bunch of feckless clowns after that performance, I wouldn't be able to look him in the eyes after collecting my pay cheque knowing I'd just not bothered doing my job. Any other career you'd be disciplined, just as this lot should be for impersonating a "professional" rugby team.
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| Quote ="Yippee try yay"Imagine being Pearson and having to pay that bunch of feckless clowns after that performance, I wouldn't be able to look him in the eyes after collecting my pay cheque knowing I'd just not bothered doing my job. Any other career you'd be disciplined, just as this lot should be for impersonating a "professional" rugby team.'"
I want to see an awful lot of them dropped because they don't deserve to be playing. But then at the same time if we drop them it means they're getting paid a good wage to sit on their every weekend instead of been involved in the tough games, which this lazy bunch would probably absolutely love.
Paying them off to get rid also means they'll get a nice payout bland an early retirement, which is seems pretty clear that's what a few of them must be hoping for.
Contracts give these players too much security and comfort. No matter how much effort they put in they'll still get paid, whether they're playing first team or not.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Litten and Abdul got plenty of chances under Radford. They just didn't take their chances.'"
They're both better players now they're out of the FC environment, wasn't Abdul's nickname at FC 'kebabdul' due his lack of fitness whilst with us?
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| Dan not holding back.
"Forget making changes for next year, Hull FC need to be working on making immediate changes. Luckily, they are - there’s just one problem; they’re looking to trade off last night's mucky kebab when they want a fillet steak in return".
Can't argue with that!
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Litten and Abdul got plenty of chances under Radford. They just didn't take their chances.'"
With Abdull we already had Sneyd and you can't play both together, and there was no way Lance Todd winning Sneyd was going to be ditched. It was just the wrong time.
Also I think Hull let Litten go before 6 again was a thing? And he's the ideal player for that rule.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Dan not holding back.
"Forget making changes for next year, Hull FC need to be working on making immediate changes. Luckily, they are - there’s just one problem; they’re looking to trade off last night's mucky kebab when they want a fillet steak in return".
Can't argue with that!'"
Anger seems to have given him extra eloquence - that is a memorable, well-crafted line.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Anger seems to have given him extra eloquence - that is a memorable, well-crafted line.'"
The beauty of the English language that we bestowed on our planet.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I have no issue with most Rovers fans coming on here to mock us, we would do the same, it's what sport and being rivals is about.
Although if during this spell of dominance they don't win anything it will soon be forgotten, plenty of other times in SL Rovers have been a better side, but no one remembers it, as in the end they didn't achieve anything.'"
Whatever. We are just enjoying the moment and looking forward to a brighter future. How or if that developed or whether we win anything only time will tell. Your misery makes our joy even sweeter
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