Sorry i never read the posts as i was at the game last night, but some of ponys posts yesterday were on the brink anyway. I have always known kosh to be fair and honest in his opinion and he always adds something to a intresting debate. It seems one or two are on their high horses and it's stating to get personal between Hull and City fans. All i want is the Allams to see sense and put the picture's back in what is a shared public stadium. I have no time for pettyness.

You mean "its".

I agree

Any idea what type of protests are planned against the Allams?

Don't you think the extra costs Hull City incur have something to do with a large police presence at every home game?. Hull don't need policing, so there's some of the costs already.Someones got to pay a rather large police bill and it aint Hull F.C..

34 posts and all but one about Hull FC.

I beg to differ

Away fans coaches bricked on a regular basis
Tearing down posts after a defeat
Fighting at the derby friendly
Spitting at their own cheerleaders

Is that the best you can do?.

Believe it or not i do watch City every now and again and theres coppers all over the place. You must come to a Hull FC game and you will be lucky to see one police officer in the stadium. FACT.

I understand that a march of support has been planned for today's game against Charlton. You have to meet at Silver Cod and then walk to the KC chanting "Imhotep"

It looks like Standee has given up on the fight already. Tuesday he was going to rip up trees such was the injustice.

Go back to posting on the HDM website about your level

I don't think I've seen this question yet, but how much a season does the SMC make from Hull FC's gate receipts for crowds above 7500? I know they take 50% for anyone above that and I undestand renegotiation of those terms increased the crowd threshold, but surely what ever they take over a season offsets this £140k premium passes and £70k for the bars?

You really do stand for everything that is toxic about this situation.

We have two RL teams in the top league and hopefully a football team about to join what is seen as the best league in the world and you want to take this negative point scoring view. No wonder we struggle with the city of Hull's image nationally with opinions like yours.

I know this is hard to believe because you are so obsessed with Hull FC but most of us have a life outside of sport. I know Standee was busy out of town yesterday concentrating on something far more important to him than a petty argument between Hull FC & City fans and their owners.

Oops - outed yourself. Bye.

The key fact is that contracts cannot simply be changed unless there is mutual agreement.

There is also some creative reporting via the HDM. Terms like "The SMC have had to take in the chin" and "The SMC are subsidising" when in fact these are contractual obligations is what is blowing the facts out of context.

I can understand you backing your Chairman, but you must also see the inequity of this situation and that playing it out in the local press, knowing that the counter party is bound by confidentiality is a very lop sided viewpoint.

Its also a surprise that despite the last contractual review (in 2006) the SMC continued to break even / make a modest profit until 2010. Is it just coinsidence that it has been making significant losses under the Allam reign? It doesnt take much to transfer certain items intra group from an accounting point of view.

Anyway, if they truely do want an open book situation, as has been mentioned, that would tell up whop pays for the non sporting images at the KC.

I have also noticed on this thread that Stewarding is provided free of charge? Now I have not seen the lease agreement, original or revised (I doubt many people have), but at no point has this ever come out into a public forum that the rental agreement for a sporting facility did not include stewarding. At what point does that start getting charge? Because it would take a formal agreement between both parties to change that, unless of course there is a date in the current agreement which states so.

As a City fan, are YOU happy with the running of your clubs business? Aside of what happens on the pitch, are you not the slightest bit concerned by the behaviour, attitude, and public comments of your owner? That Hull City's debt position has increased in their reign regardless of the fact that when they took over they very publicly stated that they spent in excess of £40m on Hull City.

Are you not at all concered that your owner publicly stated that he would move Hull City to Melton if he didn't get legal title to the KC. He didnt get it yet there are no plans afoot for relocating yet? Why has he not gone ahead with this?

Becareful who you back and what you wish for

.......he'll be back on 606 with the other inbreds.

I admire your resolve to respond, but surely you can see he is a 'patsy' and like other Hull City posters on here there sole aim is to 'wind us' up.

The thing that I find most interesting in all of this is the fact that neither the Council or the SMC have contacted Hull fc since all of this has kicked off.

Ehab Allam seems quite content in playing this all out in the press but yet has not contacted the one party who could help in bringing about a solution to this situation.

I think there are 3 types of non rugby fan that come on here who are Hull City focussed.

There are those who simply can't be bothered to respond and are read only.

There are the clear dimwits like pony... who cannot string three words together.

and there are those who are passionate about their club, but to the extent it clouds their judgement.

The points I raised, re changing of agreed terms needed both parties to agree and the stewarding issue are still relevant to this thread, IMO.

As a slight side note, when did the conflict start between Hull FC and Hull CIty fans? Was it pre KC?

I've supported Hull FC for over 30 years, I don't believe a serious conflict has ever been there (apart from the minority knobs from both sets of supporters). However, I do believe that since City got into the Premiership (and out) there is a majority belief that they can survive in the KC without us.

When Hull FC get into major finals, I personally know loads of City / Amateur footballers who supported us and vice versa when City got to there playoff at Wembley.

I am absolutely convinced that the Allams will destroy our relationship with Hull City both profressionally and at supporter level.

PS. I still smile about the fact that in my younger days the 'Hull City phychos' tried to recruit me, I declined.

That's a large proportion of our fans as well as City's.
Just for some parity, like.

Think Bet Lynch can't get it through that Adam Pearson as an ex SMC board member has a gagging order on him .
Been the owner of Hull FC means they can't comment as that is him.

At work have idiots saying we pay less for passes than City ,that thick don't realise we have 14 games against there 20+.
So they'll never get it we pay less some where near £600,000 to there £1million
to much for them to figure.

Pony if still reading the breaking crossbar in court was a City supporter leader go read report,

With an average of about 12,000 that is half of 4500, 2250 x 13 which is a hell of a lot less than the half above 12,000, which with averages of 18,000 and above, and have been higher,multiplied by 23 which City pay.
Have no doubt about which club is paying the most.

You do actually realise that City pay a flat rate of 1m per season.

As you say we pay 50% per the total average gate per season above 7,500, for 13 home games.

Hull City pay a total of 1m per season they do not pay per average gate per season as Hull Fc do.

So we have paid £600.000 a season for 13 home games, City pay £1.000.000 for 23 home games

so basically if you average it out we are paying over £46.000 a game. compared to city who are paying an average of just over £43.000 a game