Reading the Aussie press online it seems the relationship between Prince and the Titans has broken down and it would be difficult for him to stay.

However I wouldn't rule out him leaving the Titans and getting a 2 year deal at another NRL club.

I want him to sign, but only if he wants to come here.

It doesn't matter how good someone is, if he doesn't want to play for you he shouldn't be in the team.

If they didn't think he would come they wouldn't have offered him a contract.

Why not, The offer is on the table and he seemed keen but our No1 target is Prince and unfortunately it looks like we could miss out on both.

if you want to believe that then fair enough.

So Hull didn't offer him a contract, despite our chairman and West's head of recruitment saying we have?

From what ive heard Prince wont be leaving oz so that leaves us back at square one as I cant see jacob miller moving across the pond either(that last one is just imo)

The money we would be offering for prince would be huge I should imagine so surely we could get almost any 7 in sl with that money ... Go in hard for brough or dobson would be my choice

Its not just the salary is it though?

We wouldn't need to pay a transfer fee for Prince but we would for Brough or Dobson. Brough is on a long term deal at Hudds and if Hudgell wouldn't sell us Taylor I can't see him selling us Dobson. Who says either of them would want to come anyway? As Prince seems to be demonstrating, its not just about money.

Cant see Miller or Prince coming

where have I suggested we didn't offer him a contract...?

I don't really understand what you're suggesting!

It's looking as if we won't get either of them. Ahhhh, back to our good friend Square One!

I was suggesting that it's highly unlikely a 20 year old with their career ahead of them in the NRL would move to the UK, we may well have offered him a contract, but I very much doubt PG honestly thought he'd take it up.

We'll go with Horne/Holdsworth and Seymour, I've not doubted that since we didn't get Chase.

Well we didn't get Chase and if we don't get Prince it looks like we will have an awful lot of room on the salary cap.

AP said we were going to spend the full cap but there doesn't seem to be anyone to spend it on.

Do we hold on to our money in the hope that someone becomes available or do we make an offer to McGoldrick who will provide us some cover in the halves and FB? Its not just Seymour and Horne's form that worries me but also the fact that Horne appears to be increasingly injury-prone and the rumours about Seymour's fitness.

No rumours, look at the protective boot he wears on his right ankle when he plays

If pearson thinks he will get 10k passes with a combination of Horne,Seymour and Holdsworth then he is in for a shock...

he doesn't he knows he needs 17 players each week.

Lets be honest even with just those 3 in the halves its still a massive improvement on last season and when you factor in the other signings or squad it looking good add in Prince or Miller and it would be even better

Not sure what else Pearson can do, he has tried to sign us a few top players but it hasn't worked out for various reasons, he has still improved us on and off he field massively in just over a year.

The fans have to back and trust him, or we could potentially lose him and then we could be in serious trouble.

We do trust, just find it depressing that Horne or Seymour could be getting the no 7 shirt

what he said

If he is serious about taking us forward and getting into semi finals and finals then he needs better quality in the halves. Yes holdsworth is an improvement but seymour and Horne just dont cut it, you cannot expect holdsworth to carry the team by himself.

I think he knows that thats why he's trying to bring in either Prince or Miller,

I can't see what else the club can do at the moment with the lack of quality halves available, at least he's trying unlike our previous owners

I agree, but as I have said, what else can he do? He has really tried to get us another top HB and still might, my point is that even if we don't sign another HB before the season, the fans should still back I'm and buy a season pass.

We should still be close to 10000 passes IMO, we had over 8000 last year so should improve on that easily on the back of what he has done.

Back to rumours then eh? Mitchell Cornish or Harry Siejka maybe?

agree 100%, whilst some of the signings are underwhelming we seem to be (just about) getting the best of what's available (and sensible in terms of what money they [or their club want)

I am disappointed, but I don't blame a lack of effort ar ambition.

Hopefully if prince knocks us back, gentle has made a few enquiries with NRL clubs.

If not I'd make a move for eastmond or Gaskell.

I really don't see an issue. There are at least 5 NRL reserve team halves with similar potential to Miller. i'm sure if we offered Miller's contract to each of them - one of them would come!!

Unless they can get an EU passport, getting hem a working visa would be very hard.