Can we change the thread name to 'massive overreaction' please? I never expected much from this season. We had 10 players out last night and under the circumstances did well not to get a 50 point hiding, which no doubt would have happened last year. Remain positive!

so you didn't watch the inept attacking performance last night?

Extremely poor game of RL.

Nearly 40 errors in the game which either resulted in a handover or pen.

We was guilty of 25 of them.

Turner and Horne guilty of 5 and 3 errors alternatively.

No attacking threat no kicking game no ideas.

What depressed me was we had Aspinwall, Watts, Westerman, McGoldrick in the same team.

I put up with the years of e under Agar because he was out of his depths, Gentle isn't he assisted one of the best coaches in the game in Tim Sheen's and was the Aussie assistant coach but we look a slow poor side.

Yes we have injuries but we always do, same different year

And to finish if Briscoe thinks he can play in the NRL he's having a laugh.

Anyway I'm off to slit my wrists.

But hey there is always next season.

I'd pretty much agree with that. I would also say though that mostly it was much better earlier in the season, so something must have happened for an apparent laziness to kick in with several players. I suspect it comes back to some being told they're on their way and a lack of unity in the team, which will hopefully return next year with a squad who are wanted and want to be here, regardless of if they are world beaters or not.

Stop being so negative

Im off for a lie down, my stalkometers just crashed as ive finally agreed with and found a relative post off you

I'm not going to trawl through your posting history for examples, I really don't care enough. You do have a habit of reading HDM and club website articles/statements and interpreting them with your own spin to go off about them, though. One I can remember recently was when you were adamant that McRae was contradicting himself for saying it was proving hard to find players because he'd also said agents were knocking down the door.

As for expectations, the club have to be positive about things and aim high, that doesn't mean they'll meet them. People should use their own common sense and judgment to decide of they think they're possible.

pearson only predicting a top 5 finish with his new and improved squad next year so I doubt that top 4 was any kind of serious target at the club this season

If Bradford was not in the we'd finish 9th.

If Salford beat KR it might still happen.

Unlikely with players in a strop about Smith going.

This discussion had nothing whatsover to do with my own interpretations on what is written in the media, the fact is statements were coming out of the club claiming top 4 finish only weeks ago and my point is this would raise the expectations of a lot of fans who read the articles. I am still adamant that McRae contradicts himself just because you disagreed and had a different interpretation to me which I respect did not make me change my mind

We were poor last night, especially in attack it was shocking. Defence improved but first two tries were poor. Ref was appalling and cost us the second try.

That was as bad as the playoff loss last year. Have we improved....

Haha I do mate thanks. Was just a little more than hacked off last night.
Can't manage Cats away and won't go to rovers but I'll be back for the Salford game.
Always do don't we?

could have been a very different game if Ablett had been sent for ten as he should have been, of course we've improved, amazes me, people were saying "give Agar time, it's not his squad" and yet the very same people are questioning wether we've improved under Gentle when it's clear to see we have.

any CONFIRMATION of the Salford k/o yet?

We lost by 32 points in that game. Not convinced last night was as poor as that.

10 first teamers out, poor conditions and atrocious officials, last night was nowhere near as bad.

With ball in hand we were as bad. Defensively our attitude was much better.

I criticise the club when I see fit, however I find it pathetic when people say they have had enough or are considering not going any more based on a few poor perfomances or the signing of one player.

That was nowhere near as bad as the playoff loss, and we clearly have improved as much as the current squad is capable of improving. We were never going to achieve much this season even before all the injuries and disruption. Our first choice 17 was only likely to get us up to around 6th at best so no surprise that we're falling short with half of them not available for one reason or another.

stop speaking sense kosh, people dont like it,

thinkthat was one of the worst refereed games i have ever watched. thought you were going well. when you were 12 points down you looked to me the better team but at one point the penalty count was 10 -2 in leeds favour and they wre getting every decision that he could possibly give them. its about time they bit the bullet in england and got some decent aussie refs in for a couple of seasons to learn them the game. on the plus side , thought mcgoldrick had a good game.

I agree with that but our team were dead on their feet and couldn't cope with the pace. The penalty count killed us and Leeds took advantage of all the tackling we had to do. So that's why we struggled for the qptb and organising our attacking structure.
All my opinion of course add to that Manu, Radford, heremaia, watts and mcgoldrick were all blowing out their as s es.

Well damn right the club were talking about top 4 before, what would you have them say 'this is as good as it's gonna get this year'?

This is exactly about the way you process articles and statements. Consistently you pick up on what the club say they are aiming for and then hold it up as a minimum requirement so that you can then vilify them for not delivering what they say.

And it doesn't matter how you say you interpret McRae's comments, they aren't contradictory. Contradiction means 2 statements that directly oppose each other in meaning, McRae's did no such thing.

I don't think you'll get a better chance of beating Leeds, Sinfield apart they were awful. Error after error they were giving Hull every chance to get into the game 2nd half. You certainly had enough go forward to hurt them, unfortunately your just lacking that player who can unlock a defence,

Apart from the game at the KC a few weeks ago when we actual [idid[/i beat them, you mean?