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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Danny Nicklas?'"
Yes he would back Horne up and Ellis would back up Obst.
Not good enough.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Yes he would back Horne up and Ellis would back up Obst.
Not good enough.'"
Agar and the BOD,are probably re-thinking due to Long's injury,especially with a quota spot available?
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| am i missing something...not being funny but weve desperately needed half backs for years,ones with good kicking games,ones that free up the three quarters,ones that take the game by the scruff of the neck...we have some very good players with the glaring omission of half backs...so why the hell do we continually go and buy in other positions? frankly some of the suggestions for our half backs on this thread..fills me with absolute dread..i really am at a loss trying to fathom it out..surely its not that difficult for the club to see what we are painfully missing!?
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| You'd hope so, I'd pay off Obst and make a move for Dobson, Seymour, Robson, Smith. In that order.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Is a stand off.'"
Plays more like a 7,the few times i have seen him play,which i admit isn't many times.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Plays more like a 7,the few times i have seen him play,which i admit isn't many times.'"
Why because he can pass? He's never played 7.
Just because we haven't seen a ball handling, organising 6 for a bit doesn't mean they don't exist.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Agar and the BOD,are probably re-thinking due to Long's injury,especially with a quota spot available?'"
I think you are dead right, Agar said in the last off season and again recently how important it is to have smart players in the side, if Long does not get a deal then I think we would be in for another half.
We still need to replace Fitz and Hame though which would mean two british forwards.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Just been told the chances are he is out for 6 weeks minimum ...'"
Im hearing 3 months,may be wrong tho.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I think you are dead right, Agar said in the last off season and again recently how important it is to have smart players in the side, if Long does not get a deal then I think we would be in for another half.
=#0000FFWe still need to replace Fitz and Hame though which would mean two british forwards.'"
Offer Obst back to Wakefield for Paul Johnson.
The Heremaia move has now made the 2 year deal for Obst look even more stupid than I first thought.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Offer Obst back to Wakefield for Paul Johnson.
The Heremaia move has now made the 2 year deal for Obst look even more stupid than I first thought.'"
It was puzzling I agree. I think Heremaia's kicking game was maybe crucial to the decision to bring him in. Plus on the odd occasion Obst has played at hooker he had had little impact.
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| release longy,fitz and hame sign jeff robson and mark flanagan
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| Quote ="PAUL M"It was puzzling I agree. I think Heremaia's kicking game was maybe crucial to the decision to bring him in. Plus on the odd occasion Obst has played at hooker he had had little impact.'"
I said at the time we signed Obst that I expected it to be a Ben Jeffries to Bradford type move. Good in flashes, but promoted beyond his ability if you expect him to be regular half back for a supposedly top 8 team. When he arrived his enthusiasm caused him to stand out briefly, but he is still not what we need and we now appear to be committed to having him for another year, probably as our starting scrum half. The top 6 must be bricking it.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I said at the time we signed Obst that I expected it to be a Ben Jeffries to Bradford type move. Good in flashes, but promoted beyond his ability if you expect him to be regular half back for a supposedly top 8 team. When he arrived his enthusiasm caused him to stand out briefly, but he is still not what we need and we now appear to be committed to having him for another year, probably as our starting scrum half. The top 6 must be bricking it.'"
Nail on the head time.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I said at the time we signed Obst that I expected it to be a Ben Jeffries to Bradford type move. Good in flashes, but promoted beyond his ability if you expect him to be regular half back for a supposedly top 8 team. When he arrived his enthusiasm caused him to stand out briefly, but he is still not what we need and we now appear to be committed to having him for another year, probably as our starting scrum half. The top 6 must be bricking it.'"
As a back up player I don't mind him in the squad, not as a starting player though.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Why because he can pass? He's never played 7.
[uJust because we haven't seen a ball handling, organising 6 for a bit doesn't mean they don't exist.'" [/u
They are rare! Have you seen Nicklas play?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"As a back up player I don't mind him in the squad, not as a starting player though.'"
I don't mind him in the squad as such, but I do think that a transfer fee and having to offer a 2 year deal should have been enough to make us think he wasn't worth it. I'd have sooner seen us take a chance on a younger, British NL player for a year.
Will be interesting to see how Moore now goes at Wakey, if he's any better or worse than Obst was for them in the halves.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"[/u
They are rare! Have you seen Nicklas play?'"
Mainly on hullfc.tv but I did see him live the last time I was home.
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| Quote ="arliebird"release longy,fitz and hame sign jeff robson and mark flanagan'"
Oh I like that,
Flanagan
Robson or other quota halfback
Paul Johnson
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| Flanaghans nothing we haven't got in all honesty, Westerman and Tickle are both better players.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Why because he can pass? He's never played 7.
Just because we haven't seen a ball handling, organising 6 for a bit doesn't mean they don't exist.'"
We've got one
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| green,you are jesting of course.
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| What is your quota position now? Is it definite Fitzgibbon / Liuaki (sp) / Phelps are leaving at the end of the season?
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| Quote ="barham red"What is your quota position now? Is it definite Fitzgibbon / Liuaki (sp) / Phelps are leaving at the end of the season?'"
No, we've still got room for Dobson.
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| Quote ="ditchley16"green,you are jesting of course.'"
I would assume so, 7 tries / 17 assists in a team that are playing gash says he's probably not joking.
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