Cant be ar5ed to read 20 pages about Craig Hall, but to say he is as far out ofhis depth in SL as Agar is is an understatement. Please Please pi55 off with Agar

I concur. I have never been a fan of him, yes he can score tries, but for me his negatives far outweigh his positives.

Simply not good enough.

Out of his depth at this level. Enough already.

Worst performance in a Hull shirt since Blacklock's infamous 'display' against Saints in 2005.

no better than he was in 2007, a complete knock-onathon

Craig makes the same mistakes over and over again, as does Agar. Yet more people seem happy to give him more time!

Hall has to go. He's not a SL player.

poor game today infact he had a nightmare

Had a shocker, getting worse !

half the team has to get a kick up there AR5E or go.

Worse than Thorman against Leeds? I think not.

Not that being marginally better than Thorman that day is anything to be proud of, mind.

1 try from a scrum this season and people think he needs a second chance. He is crap, robbing a living as a Super League player, end of!

The one when Gwilym said he looked like he was so leisurely he looked like he was out walking the dog on a Sunday morning?



I don't think you can say Hall wasn't trying, his all round game is just not good enough at this level. With Yeaman, Briscoe, Whiting and Turner all signed up, we need to release him at the end of the season IMO.

Agreed. Time to get Whiting back at centre and persevere with one of the young lads on the wing until Calderwood returns. Having said that if Tansey can't be d to play better than that we need Rich W at full back.

What a fairy he is, was worse than useless, he didn't even kick the goals.

Mrs Barista,I am disappointed.Usually,I really respect your comments/ opinions and agree with your posts.
Craig Hall can be a magical player with the right support and COACHING.We know his defence can be suspect,but he has also pulled off tackles which have been impressive.Surely the debate has to be about Agar and his apparent inability to get the best out of the players and understand basic tactics.Anyway,at least we can watch Dr Who!
It's got a lot bigger than individual players for me.
And as for the criticism of Blacklock from whoever it was,it deserves no response.

Doesn't matter who is our coach, you can't polish a turd.

Time for him to go at the end of the season along with Horne,Radford,Calderwood,Dowes and Cusack.

don't see why your including Calderwood in that, he was one of the few players trying last season.

he's just been very unlucky with injury this season IMO

I was always giving Hall the benefit of the doubt, but after today enough is enough, he leaves the defence line to attempt intercepts that never come off, can't hold his man and wrap him up in defence, and now can't get a conversion even though he's practically in front of the sticks. Time to take his marching orders.

It [uis[/u a lot bigger than individual players, quite correct. But Hall is one OOC player who's created a debate on here precisely because of the contrast between glimpses of excellence in attack and consistently substandard defence and positioning. Some, like you, continue to claim he's "magical" and it's all Agar's fault. That's your opinion and you're fully entitled to it. Some, like me, think he's been given 60 odd first team games but is still a defensive weak link that well-organised teams, even cellar-dwellers like Quins, can exploit. With 4 players to cover centre already on the books for 2011, I wouldn't give him a new contract.

As I've already said, the acid test of the opinions of the "magical under another coach" group will be how many top 4 clubs are competing for his signature.

Our key problem, as you acknowledge, is the coaching set-up, which is already being debated at length on other threads, and which, IMO is a complete shambles.

My feelings exactly, used to think he was a really good prospect. Hes had his chances and has remained a weak link

craig halls a liabiltiy with and without the ball, god knows how he managed to get a reputation for being a good attacking player.

The sad fact is that whether it's Agar's fault or not, the damage appears to be done. I said several weeks ago that Hall needs to leave as much for his sake as anything else, and I'm still of that opinion. It's a shame, because I still think he has natural ability in attack and I really want to see a player like that in the centres for us. But I just don't think it's ever going to happen for him here - and certainly never while Agar is coach.

The coach,or the threads?

Shouldn't play for Hull again in my opinion.

We should play literally anyone else, certainly Cunningham from U20s could have a go, see if he has the desire to be a Super League player because Craig Hall clearly doesn't.

He seems to think it's OK to just throw the ball away. Well it is if you're playing touch and pass on the park with your mates, but not at this level.

That's before we even start on his appalling defence which costs the team tries time and time again.