mini injured to often

I tend to agree.

Mini only missed two games this year, hardly too many injuries and I don't think anyone in the current squad resigning will be a deal breaker as far as season tickets are concerned myself! Its all a question of balance between the old head role model culture makers and the young lads who have to learn and do so twice as quickly with such mentors around the place. All teams need steadying influences and these guys fall into that category. I agree though that there is little out there to sign that is better than what we have both ability and attitude wise at present. Westerman is the only piece not in place now for 2019 for me.

hope you are right and Mini and Manu go well next season. Happy to be wrong if it isn't a season too far for both.

To be fair thinks its a good move by the club to re sign both Mini & Manu particularly in the current climate in terms of available players that would be a step up from them. Both are professional and excellent mentors for the younger players both on and off the field.

I would say taking SC and available players in to account to replace both Mini & Manu the club have made a quantified decision as to securing new deals with them is the best option for the club to carry on moving forward. We can't as fans doubt the decisions as since AP appointed LR as Head Coach the recruitment has been pretty much spot on.

Also think its important to realise that both Mini & Manu have not been 100% fit and probably played when they should have been on the sidelines but due to the injuries sustained this season have played on out of necessity (similarly to Taylor).

It also gives the club and Ellis time to find quality replacements for these two for 2020

I would expect both Mini and Manu to be on same if not reduced contracts with all due respect to them, Connor will have have got a decent increase I imagine otherwise they'll have been a few clubs sniffing around, not sure if the club/player have an increment for getting an international cap (I presume it was classified as such?) As others have mentioned we would have had to uprate Kelly to keep hold of him which puts us right near to the max on the cap IMHO. Washbrook to move on and his salary used for Bienek.

So are we deffo saying Westerman to sign up for next year on a one year, he's done okay but want to use him more effectively to match his strengths. Maybe with a fit squad we can use him more like he should be as he did for Warrington under Smith when he was by far the best 13 in the country that season.

I agree that we should release Washbrook.We have been too loyal to some players when it comes to the end of their contract
A good signing for his utility roles,he and Turgut should be released as we have players next season who can step into what were their roles.
Downs is worth keeping on and i think he will develop into a good second row if he keeps playing regularly with Doncaster or a Championship club and filling in at Hull when required.He is fast for a second row and will have another preseason to bulk up.
Cant see a role for Abdull or Ross Osborne.

I would doubt very much Manu is on a reduced contract after the apparent NRL interest.
Chuffed he's prolonging his adventure with us.

Manu is 31 and has years left in him. He could have easily got a contract at an NRL club when you look at some of the rubbish that comes over here from oz who have been at NRL clubs

Easily got a contract, I don't think so, where's your evidence of that? Not a single club made a legitimate offer, if there had been one he'd have taken it in a heartbeat. He's a very good SL player but he's the wrong side of 30 and that is reflected in only getting a one year contract extension. IF the club thought he was worth it/stopping NRL coming in for him we'd have signed him for 2 years or longer.

What a hypocrite. Where's YOUR evidence that he didn't get another offer?

Bumpy obviously knows more than our head coach who stated we had to fend off NRL interest.
Obviously, it goes without saying.

This is extra special thick....
It's Sika Manu...you know..the Tonga captain..one of their players of the WC..our coaches player of the year 2017
If he'd decided to leave he'd of had plenty of choice. Why would he of left for 1 legitimate offer? Connor Kelly Carlos would all have got deals elsewhere...what's the reason they feel like staying but Sika would be off?
He signed a 1 year deal as he'd only recently decided to put his feelings of homesickness to a side. He's mentioned it before. Even last year when with Kelly was our best player
It's not just clubs call to say how long people stay for. Crazily players can negotiate their deals. Mad eh

Exactly why?

1 year could just suit both parties.

Yes, I think it suits mainly Manu and his family. If they are home sick 1 year seems more doable for them

as you (and others) have said, suits both parties, he may even have plans beyond 2019/20 to move on but he's staying to give us time to get a replacement, be that externally or a player already signed/here?

To be fair to bumpy, it's pretty obvious that any player who signs to play under radford pretty much has no other optuions

Sure all players would rather be at KR, Widnes, Salford, Wakefield under their stellar coaching regiemes...

B2B Challenge Cups, Playoff semi finals, sitting 5th, Lee clearly has learnt nothing since he started coaching. Oh, don't forget, according to another poster it's his fault we're inconsistent (despite not being able to pick the same 17 from one week to the next)

And doesn't give young players a chance despite us being reliant on them for the last 2 months which is also radfords fault

but, despite that, "what have the Romans ever done for us"?

He dug a big hole and has been scrambling to get out of it by his fingernails for quite some time.
If he ever manages to escape to the top, it'll only be because of some form of club implosion.
Sadly, it's the only way his bitterness can be alleviated.

If bumpy got the job he could destroy the club in a matter of weeks.

weeks?

He'd only need to log in and we'd be in league two, but ir would be no problem, we'd have a psychologist to help the players through the trauma.

I'd love to know Bumpy's thought on Gareth Southgate...

Anyway...

Sika Manu. Think we missed him on our right edge on Thurs. Could have been a big support for Scott. Wonder if we have someone lined up in 2020 hence the 1 year deals for mini and manu.