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| Johnson is injured AFAIK. I certainly don't think he's had the impact that Aspinwall had for us yet but I suppose there's time. He and Pitts were comprehensively smashed by KR on Good Friday.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Johnson is injured AFAIK. I certainly don't think he's had the impact that Aspinwall had for us yet but I suppose there's time. He and Pitts were comprehensively smashed by KR on Good Friday.'"
My early impressions of him are that he's not as good as Aspy. Like you say though there's time and I'd like to see a bit more of him before making a proper judgement.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Johnson is injured AFAIK. I certainly don't think he's had the impact that Aspinwall had for us yet but I suppose there's time. He and Pitts were comprehensively smashed by KR on Good Friday.'"
I said in another thread recently that he doesn't look as big as my memories of him in his first season at Wakey. Could be wrong, but that year I recall him running in harder and punching a few holes. We could do with that.
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| Personally I dont think either Johnson or Pitts are big enough to play prop, Pitts seems Ok as a squad player in the backrow, but I have been more impressed with Green and Bowden as props than either of those two.
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| Johnson had his best game for us at Wakey. Maybe that's just cos he was more fired up or maybe because he's getting more used to the club.
He's ok but just like Pitts - not big enough.
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| Quote ="lummy"Johnson had his best game for us at Wakey. Maybe that's just cos he was more fired up or maybe because he's getting more used to the club.
He's ok but just like Pitts - not big enough.'"
I'm sure there was another away match earlier in the season (maybe Saints?) when Doc on RH was saying how well he (Johnson) was playing and then fans on here commented about him being one of the standout performers.
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| Quote ="davey37"I'm sure there was another away match earlier in the season (maybe Saints?) when Doc on RH was saying how well he (Johnson) was playing and then fans on here commented about him being one of the standout performers.'"
It was definitely Saints. His other ex-club, too.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Personally I dont think either Johnson or Pitts are big enough to play prop, Pitts seems Ok as a squad player in the backrow, but I have been more impressed with Green and Bowden as props than either of those two.'"
Tend to agree. Although as I say, I seem to remember Johnson being bigger in his early Wakey days so would like to see him bulk up.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Friends of mine has said that to but that's what you get when you sign Wakefields 4/5th choice prop.'"
Fourth choice prop would be in their seventeen
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| Quote ="Dave K."Personally I dont think either Johnson or Pitts are big enough to play prop, Pitts seems Ok as a squad player in the backrow, but I have been more impressed with Green and Bowden as props than either of those two.'"
pitts and johnson aren't good enough to be starting players in a team that has genuine aspirations of success
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| Of course you can rely on youngsters if they are good enough, if they weren't good enough they wouldn't be in there!
I remember manly starting with a pair of rookie half backs in Cherry-Evans and Foran, wonder how that's going....
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| Johnson's a far better player than Aspinwall, a hell of a lot younger too, which is probably the reason for his inconsistency. Another one that Gentle can coach, which is what he wanted.
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| Quote ="Edenmain"Of course you can rely on youngsters if they are good enough, if they weren't good enough they wouldn't be in there!
I remember manly starting with a pair of rookie half backs in Cherry-Evans and Foran, wonder how that's going....'"
They're in there because the 1st choice players are injured
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Johnson's a far better player than Aspinwall, a hell of a lot younger too, which is probably the reason for his inconsistency. Another one that Gentle can coach, which is what he wanted.'"
aspinwall wasn;t brought in as a 1st choice prop though. For me, johnson doesn't have the physique to be a dominant front rower
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"aspinwall wasn;t brought in as a 1st choice prop though. For me, johnson doesn't have the physique to be a dominant front rower'"
Only Lynch & O'Meley are our dominant front rowers, the others rely on other aspects. Watts' is the offload and Johnson's is more of a step at the line to land on the front.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Only Lynch & O'Meley are our dominant front rowers, the others rely on other aspects. Watts' is the offload and Johnson's is more of a step at the line to land on the front.'"
johnson is more getting dominated by averagew forwards because you're not big enough from wahat I've seen
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"johnson is more getting dominated by averagew forwards because you're not big enough from wahat I've seen'"
It's no more complicated than that.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"johnson is more getting dominated by averagew forwards because you're not big enough from wahat I've seen'"
He's a forward that relies on late foot movement at the line, this is easier on the firmer pitches. Bull dozing players isn't his game, and it never was at Wakey. People are blaming him for not being something he never was in the first place.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"He's a forward that relies on late foot movement at the line, this is easier on the firmer pitches. Bull dozing players isn't his game, and it never was at Wakey. People are blaming him for not being something he never was in the first place.'"
No one's blaming him for anything, merely stating that he isn't the forward we need. He replaced moa and we are much weaker up front as a result
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Fourth choice prop would be in their seventeen
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Your correct of course but I just couldn't imagine one of the genuine big 6 signing him.
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| [url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Gentle-Half-duo-starting-make-tick/story-18695136-detail/story.html#axzz2QJsVUaBzSeems Gentle sees what most right minded people have seen for years[/url
Horne is a Fullback!
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Your correct of course but I just couldn't imagine one of the genuine big 6 signing him.'"
Possibly true, but there have been some unpredictable signings in the last couple of years. Smith to Wigan, Turner to Saints, Moore to Leeds etc.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"That's a really impressive bench. All young, all fit and all keen to make their mark.'"
Impressive? In what sense? Because they are young, fit and keen to make their mark....lol?
I would rather have experienced, quick and impact players. Impressive is not a word I would use to describe a subs bench that contains not a single first choice player.
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| Quote ="spegs"Impressive? In what sense? Because they are young, fit and keen to make their mark....lol?
I would rather have experienced, quick and impact players. Impressive is not a word I would use to describe a subs bench that contains not a single first choice player.'"
Careful, you'll get all of the positive fans telling you you're slagging the players and coach
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