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| Quote ="Standee"injuries, he's worked as hard, if not harder, than anyone else, but we've carried wingers before and it doesn't work.'"
The old adage of getting rid of a year too early is better than a year too late still rings true IMO.
Hull have displayed a certain ruthlessness recently in releasing players and they appear to be benefitting from this approach , the players know it is a profesional sport and there is little room for sentiment now with the constraints of the salary cap.
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| Shame about Calderwood, He looked up for it last night . A bit of a selection headache for Agar next week as who to replace him with. Hall , Lynn , Tuffour maybe Turner if Horne returns.
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| If Horney is fit, Turner to centre and Whiting on the wing, if Hornes not fit Hall to wing Whiting back to centre. Simplez.
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| Quote ="Captain Dave"The old adage of getting rid of a year too early is better than a year too late still rings true IMO.
Hull have displayed a certain ruthlessness recently in releasing players and they appear to be benefitting from this approach , the players know it is a profesional sport and there is little room for sentiment now with the constraints of the salary cap.'"
We need 2 non quota wingers in the offseason then. And possibly one on loan now.
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| Dont know if it's been mentioned but Horneys injury is rib cartilage damage. He apparently ran into Sam Moa in trainning late in the week. He seemed to think that it wouldnt keep him out for too long but rib cartilage can be pretty painful.
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| Quote ="Ellam"If Horney is fit, Turner to centre and Whiting on the wing, if Hornes not fit Hall to wing Whiting back to centre. Simplez.'"
Sorry but as good as he covered we cannot start Whiting on the wing, id have that partnership but Turner on the wing
Or id play Tansey there and put Whiting at 1 if there was no other options
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"We need 2 non quota wingers in the offseason then. And possibly one on loan now.'"
who on loan? Why not give the young lads a chance? the at the end of the season we have those 2 as super league experienced players and , if he can over come his injurys, calderwood.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"who on loan? Why not give the young lads a chance? the at the end of the season we have those 2 as super league experienced players and , if he can over come his injurys, calderwood.'"
On the not unreasonable assumption that Calderwood is out for 2 months, which includes the most challenging run of games this season in the derby, Wire, Leeds, Leeds, Wakefield in close succession, we have no senior specialist winger in the squad and Raynor's money to play with. If we could get someone like Ainscough, are you saying that wouldn't strengthen us? I'm all for Lyne/Tuffour getting the odd game, but not to go in and cover for 2 months. Hall is a centre, end of story.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"We need 2 non quota wingers in the offseason then. And possibly one on loan now.'"
I'm not advocating releasing Calderwood now , just that I would be surprised if he is retained for next season.
IIRC this is his last year on his current deal, and no doubt he would be looking for another 2 year contract at least which may well be the year too long that I allude to.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"On the not unreasonable assumption that Calderwood is out for 2 months, which includes the most challenging run of games this season in the derby, Wire, Leeds, Leeds, Wakefield in close succession, we have no senior specialist winger in the squad and Raynor's money to play with. If we could get someone like Ainscough, are you saying that wouldn't strengthen us? I'm all for Lyne/Tuffour getting the odd game, but not to go in and cover for 2 months. Hall is a centre, end of story.'"
while a agree I can't think of any reserve winger tearing it up in the u20's except lyne.
Briscoe will now play wing all season. Tuffour or lyne to make the shirt their own? what a encentive to a young player!
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| Quote ="CRAIG 73"Dont know if it's been mentioned but Horneys injury is rib cartilage damage. He apparently ran into Sam Moa in trainning late in the week. He seemed to think that it wouldnt keep him out for too long but rib cartilage can be pretty painful.'"
just recovering from a rib cartlidge injurie from wresstling and physio told me usually takes 4weeks regardless of treatment.low and behold after 4wks it seems to back to somewhere near normal.hopefully with the top quality rehabilitation at hull, horney will be back sooner rather than later but i wouldnt be too confident we'll see him next week or week after!
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| Shame for Calders, but i do think the wing position is becoming a worry for us.
Teams will target us in this area (as Wigan already have) unless we play a recognised winger in the wing spot and if this means blooding one of our youngsters then so be it. You have to do it at some point for them to gain Super League experience. It did Horne and Yeamo no harm. Otherwise we could come really unstuck over the Easter period.
If not then as Mrs B suggests we need to seek a loan winger or buy one, salary cap permitting, even if it means going to the lower leagues. Any suggestions/names anyone?
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| Our problem of having, in the senior squad, 4 "centres" (Briscoe, Whiting, Yeaman, Hall with Turner to call on) and only one winger (Calderwood) is giving Agar a headache. Briscoe is never a winger, hes wasted out there and this is doing his game no good whatsoever. Hes looked dangerous only twice this year (Saints when he came infield and broke away to score and another time which escapes me). Hall hasnt the confidence to play wing, we get away with him at centre at home. Yeaman is undroppable it seems and Whiting is making sure, through his performances, is somewhere on that teamsheet each week. Four into two doesnt go so something has to give. I'd give one of the 2 young kids (Tuffour/Lyne) a go next week with Whiting alongside him as Yeaman has a tendency to disregard using or looking after his winger. If we were at home against Salford i'd be tempted to play both. In the coming weeks with Calderwood out, it looks like a make do with Briscoe on one flank but the coaches have got to work on his game defensively otherwise that left wing will be like a sitting duck. For the other wing, its either one of the young kids or Whiting, who, ateotd will never let you down wherever he plays. Hes no slower than players like Colbon for example.
To talk of disregarding Calderwood already at the end of the year isnt fair on the kid, hes obviously come back to early with this injury. I'd certainly keep him on. I noticed fans havnt been shouting for Long's head even though hes missed 3 games and hasnt come with the best injury record of recent seasons.
A big blow to lose Horne, we just need confirmation of how long were looking at him being out.
It could be worse, we could be nursing 10 injuries this week which was a regular occurance last 2 years so 2 injuries after 7 games plus 2 friendlies isnt a bad record for us upto now touch wood.
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| I'd move Tansey to the wing and Whiting to full back for now. Turner in right centre if Horne is fit, or Hall if not.
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| Quote ="Ellam"If Horney is fit, Turner to centre and Whiting on the wing, if Hornes not fit Hall to wing Whiting back to centre. Simplez.'"
HALL IS NOT A WINGER!!!!......time to blood one of the young guns
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| Give Reece Lyne a go, he's inexperienced but at least he's a proper winger. He's tall, fast and strong and when you've got that you're well on your way to being a good winger.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head" He's tall, fast and strong and when you've got that you're well on your way to being a good winger.'"
So is Dwayne Chambers.
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| Too soon for Reece imo, bring Hall back for Calderwood. Horne probs won't play next week but hopefully will be back for the Rovers game. Think the initial diagnosis was 3 weeks.
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| Tuffour is 20 if he can't cut it at that age should get ridd
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| I dont buy any of this too soon malarky. Like Mrs B pointed out last night Yeamo started out at 16 and has not done too badly. Lynne although only 16 has shown in the u20's he can score tries and has pace to burn so i think he deserves a shot playing there. Salford would be the ideal game to blood him in as well.
We really do need at least one winger in the side and with Calders injured i think it is time to give the youngster a go.
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| what happened to the days when an injured player was replaced by a player from the "A" team who played in the same position?
bring a young winger in and give him a go, 10 years ago we brought a young stand off (plus another player)into the side from our lower ranks and they did n't do too bad.
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| Quote ="penny for your thoughts"what happened to the days when an injured player was replaced by a player from the "A" team who played in the same position'"
Those days are long gone! Anyway why simply replace an injuried player with his understudy when you can make 6 positional changes and end up with players playing out of position?
I would give Lyne or Tuffour their SL debuts next week.
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| Where is our squad No 5 ?
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Where is our squad No 5 ?
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In Wrexham.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Where is our squad No 5 ?
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Playing for Crusaders.
I'd bring in either Lyne or Tuffour against Salford, got to play them sometime
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