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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"I dont find it hard to understand, I agreed that houghton was excellant in the last 20. Just pointing out how clueless you are when it comes to the scrum half posistion. When we was 20 nil down , you said we "need"to get rid of snyed and give a young kid a go, as if that would solve everything. We 22 -20 and talk as if snyed had nothing at al to do with it, but blame him for been 20 down. Thats what I dont get'"
OK I'll make it a bit easier. I expect more from the scrum half than we are currently getting from Sneyd. Not just in this game but all games. He makes too many wrong decisions with his distribution. He hits the front man when he should go behind and vice versa. He runs the ball and puts his own players under pressure (Minichiello). Had he played to par I think we would have scored some points earlier in the game.
The logic you are using could just as easily apply to your view on Radford. When things go wrong you're all over him like a rash. When we win you're nowhere. That's what I don't get.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Our captain is a machine.'"
Not exactly let himself go, has he?
Webster's post match bleat that they "ran out of troops" was worthy of Sandercock. Pryce, Talanoa, Manu, Tuimavave, Minichiello. Probably had as many first teamers out as them.
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| Have to say apart from one dropped ball Yeaman again did well and his pass to Shaul was outstanding. Also thought Fonua was excellent with the ball particularly as we created so little for the first 50 mins. As previously stated Ellis is superb - one of the best modern day players to wear the Hull shirt.
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| Well i decided i couldnt take anymore at half time so went in the garden, then i heard my wife shout come on when we scored the first try and i watched it till the end then - Now im ecstatic! we were poor from 1-17 in the first 60 mins with the possible exception of Ellis, Houghton and and Shaul who incedentally where the players who led from the front in the final 20 mins when we turned it around. So many players seem to become completely different, Fonua was excellent in that last 20 but decent throughout, Pritchard the same though it does disturb me when he takes on himself to become a play maker - does he get that frustrated that he tries and sorts it himself?
Anyway i live near Caravan Park and could hear the FC fans walking along Preston Rd towards Marfleet all in good voice and probably deciding to stick together as the KR fans have history for not taking things like this very well resulting in a tirade or abuse and spit so i cant say i blame them!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"'"
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Well i decided i couldnt take anymore at half time so went in the garden, then i heard my wife shout come on when we scored the first try and i watched it till the end then - Now im ecstatic! we were poor from 1-17 in the first 60 mins with the possible exception of Ellis, Houghton and and Shaul who incedentally where the players who led from the front in the final 20 mins when we turned it around. So many players seem to become completely different, Fonua was excellent in that last 20 but decent throughout, Pritchard the same though it does disturb me when he takes on himself to become a play maker - does he get that frustrated that he tries and sorts it himself?
Anyway i live near Caravan Park and could hear the FC fans walking along Preston Rd towards Marfleet all in good voice and probably deciding to stick together as the KR fans have history for not taking things like this very well resulting in a tirade or abuse and spit so i cant say i blame them!'"
Not like you to sack things off when the going gets tough Seb.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"OK I'll make it a bit easier. I expect more from the scrum half than we are currently getting from Sneyd. Not just in this game but all games. He makes too many wrong decisions with his distribution. He hits the front man when he should go behind and vice versa. He runs the ball and puts his own players under pressure (Minichiello). Had he played to par I think we would have scored some points earlier in the game.
The logic you are using could just as easily apply to your view on Radford. When things go wrong you're all over him like a rash. When we win you're nowhere. That's what I don't get.'"
To be fair, I did think that myself on the Radford comparison, you have a point. And going of your point of view, that second half had nothing to do with radford and all down to houghton taking it upon himself to change everything. Personally I dont give radford credit for that win, but im also not going to be all over him like a rash as you say , after a win. If wed of come out after half time and performed like the last 20, I would of praised radford for whatever hed said at half time, but like you , think it was more down to some of our senior players, houghton/ellis for the dramaric turn around
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Have to say apart from one dropped ball Yeaman again did well and his pass to Shaul was outstanding. Also thought Fonua was excellent with the ball particularly as we created so little for the first 50 mins. As previously stated Ellis is superb - one of the best modern day players to wear the Hull shirt.'"
Considering that's his first game in 6 weeks I thought Fonua was good. Even when we were playing badly he was a bit of a highlight. It will be interesting to see how we line up when Pryce and Talanoa are back. Fonua at centre looks like it could work.
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| What a game. Credit to Radford for realising his tactics weren't working and changing things but why did it take him until after an hour? Anyway, here's hoping he keeps the last 20mins tactics for the Wire and I'm confident we'll turn them over.
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| Quote ="Lang Park"What a game. Credit to Radford for realising his tactics weren't working and changing things but why did it take him until after an hour? Anyway, here's hoping he keeps the last 20mins tactics for the Wire and I'm confident we'll turn them over.'"
I don't mean to knock Radford all the time, but I don't think he had anything to do with it. It just seemed like the players thinking, nothing to lose, let's just throw caution to the wind. And even if it was Radford telling them to throw caution to the wind, it's hardly tactical genius is it. I could have told them that.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Considering that's his first game in 6 weeks I thought Fonua was good. Even when we were playing badly he was a bit of a highlight. It will be interesting to see how we line up when Pryce and Talanoa are back. Fonua at centre looks like it could work.'"
Looks like a bit of a strike player to me like you say he did pretty well when we were creating nothing.
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| Wigan carry on the way thieve started , We'll move up to 4th .
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| Webster blaming short turnaround, players jabbed up and tough calls!
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I don't mean to knock Radford all the time, but I don't think he had anything to do with it. It just seemed like the players thinking, nothing to lose, let's just throw caution to the wind. And even if it was Radford telling them to throw caution to the wind, it's hardly tactical genius is it. I could have told them that.'" Of course not, it's only Radford's doing when we lose.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Webster blaming short turnaround, players jabbed up and tough calls!'"
Tough calls ??? Bloody hell Bentham gave us virtually nothing.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Wigan carry on the way thieve started , We'll move up to 4th .'" I should imagine Wigan will be getting their annual Easter Monday 80 points.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Looks like a bit of a strike player to me like you say he did pretty well when we were creating nothing.'"
Did really well a couple of times avoiding GLDs also.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Tough calls ??? Bloody hell Bentham gave us virtually nothing.'"
.......hmmmm really. Penalty count will be interesting.
From my seat Taylor's shot on Green was a pen and if it was then a sending off but that was on one watch.
Webster out coached Radford and his players pulled off some miracle plays to get you out of jail.
Sneyd, Shaul and Houghton were fantastic.
Pritchard is stealing a living.
Your pack were outplayed by our midgets Houghton and Taylor aside.
Taylor however is a classless pr#ck.
Good game. Well done on the result.
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| Also Naughtons excellent kick returns in the second half really helped!
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm".......hmmmm really. Penalty count will be interesting.
From my seat Taylor's shot on Green was a pen and if it was then a sending off but that was on one watch.
Webster out coached Radford and his players pulled off some miracle plays to get you out of jail.
Sneyd, Shaul and Houghton were fantastic.
Pritchard is stealing a living.
Your pack were outplayed by our midgets Houghton and Taylor aside.
Taylor however is a classless pr#ck.
Good game. Well done on the result.'"
When you see the Green/Taylor one again, you'll change your mind.
Nothing wrong with the initial challenge by Taylor, but Greens head collided with Watts' knee on the way down. Nothing wrong with that.
Tuimavave having to go off for a hit directly to the head on the other hand...
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm".......hmmmm really. Penalty count will be interesting.
From my seat Taylor's shot on Green was a pen and if it was then a sending off but that was on one watch.
Webster out coached Radford and his players pulled off some miracle plays to get you out of jail.
Sneyd, Shaul and Houghton were fantastic.
Pritchard is stealing a living.
Your pack were outplayed by our midgets Houghton and Taylor aside.
Taylor however is a classless pr#ck.
Good game. Well done on the result.'"
Hahaha not quite sure about any of that
Miracle plays??? Really, just looked like decent rugby to me
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm".......hmmmm really. Penalty count will be interesting.
From my seat Taylor's shot on Green was a pen and if it was then a sending off but that was on one watch.
Webster out coached Radford and his players pulled off some miracle plays to get you out of jail.
Sneyd, Shaul and Houghton were fantastic.
Pritchard is stealing a living.
Your pack were outplayed by our midgets Houghton and Taylor aside.
Taylor however is a classless pr#ck.
Good game. Well done on the result.'"
Pens was 7-4 to you at one point.Total crap about Taylor's tackle,Green hit Watts knee on the way down,interesting you haven't mentioned the cheating frog,that was disgusting and no need.At least Pritchard plays unlike your 2 bu pass members and as for classless......at least he isn't a Peado
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Taylor however is a classless pr#ck.'"
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm".......hmmmm really. Penalty count will be interesting.
From my seat Taylor's shot on Green was a pen and if it was then a sending off but that was on one watch.
Webster out coached Radford and his players pulled off some miracle plays to get you out of jail.
Sneyd, Shaul and Houghton were fantastic.
Pritchard is stealing a living.
Your pack were outplayed by our midgets Houghton and Taylor aside.
Taylor however is a classless pr#ck.
Good game. Well done on the result.'"
Miracle plays?......just decent rugby against a team that had ran out of steam and at 20-0 thought it was it....you got what you deserved...sod all
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"When you see the Green/Taylor one again, you'll change your mind.
Nothing wrong with the initial challenge by Taylor, but Greens head collided with Watts' knee on the way down. Nothing wrong with that.
Tuimavave having to go off for a hit directly to the head on the other hand...'"
Ok. On initial view it looked high and with the shoulder but I'll don't doubt your explanation. Didn't see the Carlos one just saw him fall trying to walk away. Thought he was doing the tackling when it happened but again could be wrong.
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