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| Quote ="Smiggs"And while he's away move the club/ground and training facilities so that he can't find us, good idea.'"
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| Quote ="muddyboots"i would give him a fortnight away from the club on full pay, no training, no attending games, no nothing so he can dust himself down and come back and try again.'" were already paying him to do nothing.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"were already paying him to do nothing.'"
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"He could cut the grass at the KC. Must be something he can do?'" Serve chicken at a K.F.C?
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| Quote ="beetwaste"Thorman has now had 2 p-poor games, and has probably contributed considerably to our defeats. That I agree with.
What's disappointing me is the downright abuse he's getting. Ok, drop him to the 2nd team, even replace him next year. But it's easier to get rid, than work on improving his game. It's blatently obvious the man is having a huge confidence issue, and some of the comments on here won't help him.
We all agree he's having a shocker. So let's encourage the guy to get better. If it doesn't work, then it's plan B.'"
Sorry, has he EVER been outstanding for us?!
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Sorry, has he EVER been outstanding for us?!'" Bradford?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Bradford?'"
I can't recall him every playing in a black and white shirt and me thinking "Wow, what a great player we have signed, all our scrum half problems are solved"
It's not a confidence issue, he's just not good enough at this level
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| Quote ="super sub terry day"blame the player or blame the coach for picking him ?'"
Or for making him vice captain, says it all about our setup
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"I have posted elsewhere about the limitations of Thorman. And that he is a decent bloke.
However he did not 'sign himslef' for Hull. he joined you because Jon Sharp recommended him. And he does not 'pick himself' each week. That is down to Agar and Sharp.
With all this anger you should keep asking who signed him and who keeps picking him.'"
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| never rated thorman myself ! but i do i rate him as the worst defensive player I've ever seen, the guy couldn't tackle my misses and shes only five foot five
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| I'm just waiting for a piece in tha wail from agar telling us he's talked things through with thorman who knows he's not been playing well and is determined to turn it around and how he's training the house down ready for the saints game
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm just waiting for a piece in tha wail from agar telling us he's talked things through with thorman who knows he's not been playing well and is determined to turn it around and how he's training the house down ready for the saints game'"
And a new contract for 2010.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"And a new contract for 2010.'"
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| My word....i have openend a can of worms havent i.....................Thorman against Wire and more so at leeds was shocking totally shocking and should never play 1st team again....will he get the same treatment as Hall???
We should never have signed him after he turned his back on us the 1st after agreeing and signing??..........The avatars was a bit of fun which may have been a bit ott....end of the day Thorman is truly a shocking player and single handed cost us the game on Tuesday night in one of the worst displays i have witnessed.....those that say support him..why??? he is a pro rl player earning good money...he shouldnt need supporting,he should be able to get on with his job......you can stick a fork in him as he done as a SL player....."IF" he plays against Sts...he wont get booed by me but he wont get my support either....just silence.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"My word....i have openend a can of worms havent i.....................Thorman against Wire and more so at leeds was shocking totally shocking and should never play 1st team again....will he get the same treatment as Hall???
We should never have signed him after he turned his back on us the 1st after agreeing and signing??..........The avatars was a bit of fun which may have been a bit ott....end of the day Thorman is truly a shocking player and single handed cost us the game on Tuesday night in one of the worst displays i have witnessed.....those that say support him..why??? he is a pro rl player earning good money...he shouldnt need supporting,he should be able to get on with his job......you can stick a fork in him as he done as a SL player....."IF" he plays against Sts...he wont get booed by me but he wont get my support either....just silence.'"
I think that is fair - but let's hope you don't have to do either.
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sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league/hul ... p?ID=12834
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sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league/hul ... p?ID=12834
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| Quote ="fc baldy""IF" he plays against Sts...he wont get booed by me but he wont get my support either....just silence.'"
That is a fair comment, don't get me wrong he was absolutely shocking the other night, in fact I can't remember the last time I saw such an inept individual performance. I just get the impression that over the whole of this season, he is the easy target to single out, when the reality is there is a much bigger problem.
Poor management across the board hamstringing the ability to improve the team for the future by tying up average players to contracts and also bringing in mediocrity (ie Thorman himself),taking the cheap option regarding head coach position.
Let's face it this season is over whether Thorman plays the rest of the season or doesn't play another game. We may make the playoffs but we won't last long in them.Sad but true unfortunately.
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| Thorman has a bad game and is hung out to dry when the rest of the squad have been poor all season.
The root of the problem comes with you Hull fans expecting too much from a bad squad,bad captain,bad coaching etc
TBF to Thorman he was playing ok at the start of the season so what's the differance now
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| Quote ="Rommel"Thorman has a bad game and is hung out to dry when the rest of the squad have been poor all season.
The root of the problem comes with you Hull fans expecting too much from a bad squad,bad captain,bad coaching etc
TBF to Thorman he was playing ok at the start of the season so what's the differance now
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He has had more than one bad game, most of them have been the same. He was superb at Odsal and was okay in a couple of early games. However in the majority of them he has been really poor, does not take the line on, when is faced with having to take a tackle he invariable kicks regardless of what tackle we are on and defensively is appualing.
We do have plenty of other problems, but that does not let Thorman off the hook.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Thorman has a bad game and is hung out to dry when the rest of the squad have been poor all season.
The root of the problem comes with you Hull fans expecting too much from a bad squad,bad captain,bad coaching etc
TBF to Thorman he was playing ok at the start of the season so what's the differance now
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Actually Thorman has had one decent performance the away game at Bradford other than that he's been nothing other than ordinary. However his last two peformances have been abject. I do agree with you regarding the quality of our squad and coaching.
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| Quote ="Big Mac"That is a fair comment, don't get me wrong he was absolutely shocking the other night, in fact I can't remember the last time I saw such an inept individual performance. I just get the impression that over the whole of this season, he is the easy target to single out, when the reality is there is a much bigger problem.
Poor management across the board hamstringing the ability to improve the team for the future by tying up average players to contracts and also bringing in mediocrity (ie Thorman himself),taking the cheap option regarding head coach position.
Let's face it this season is over whether Thorman plays the rest of the season or doesn't play another game. We may make the playoffs but we won't last long in them.Sad but true unfortunately.'"
Our season has not been ruined by Thorman I would agree but he has played a good part in our poor form. Of course the coaching needs looking at as RA and JS seem to be clueless when it comes to picking sides and employing different tactics to suit the opponents. The thing is that Thorman just looks as though he doesn't care or that he is even trying, I know he probably does care but those tackles he attempts, well you can't even call them tackles, are simply awful and right now he is too much of a liability to have in the team.
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| As we all know well and good, and have done for more seasons then we wanted to, a team cannot play without a scrum half. A player who will take charge in the centre of the park, challenges the defensive line and at the end of sets have a good kick which makes the opposition full back work for the ball.
Thorman does not do this by a long shot, so therefore not allowing the rest of the team to play to their full potential either.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"A player who will take charge in the centre of the park, challenges the defensive line and at the end of sets have a good kick which makes the opposition full back work for the ball.
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"Agreed. However, a SH no matter how good he is will struggle to do any of the above if his team isn't organised. If we want to compete with the best in SL every player needs to know their role inside out. Our set up on the 4th and 5th tackles against Leeds was none existent, no SH in the world could have triggered anything for us on that night. No attacking line, no willing runners, no dummy runners, no intensity in the kick chase, no attempt to play the ball quickly, etc, etc. That's before we even mention the defense!'"
We were playing with our tails up all first half, until Thorman made the stupid mistake of chipping the ball for Raynor to chase with less then a minute left, causing Leeds to score!
I woulc also argue that a SH and Vice Captian should be organising his team.
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