[quote="HU8HFC":131y3es2]Well after been labelled as a low life and unemployed for suggesting Abdull had an injury, it turns out that, unfortunately, the injury to Abdul is worse than originally thought. For me if there was any indication Abdull needed a clear out of the knee, especially with his track record, the club should’ve put him under the knife ASAP. Looks inevitable that he will miss the start of the year.[/quote:131y3es2] the funny thing about all of this is nobody else wanted him, and FC offered him the world its no secret how bad his injury is

Can't understand why he didn't have the op before pre season. He would now be 3 months in to his recovery. Seems strange trying to rehab it and hope for the best after all the issues he's had with it. Good to hear that Cust is impressing though. Think he could have a really big season now he's back playing under John Cartwright.

[quote="Oafy":1mcbgz39]Your coach has just come out and said a op is a option, but it looks as though they don’t want to go down that road so why did he need a clear out last year and not now? Seems you’re just trying to pass the blame onto other clubs[/quote:1mcbgz39] Not really. His Hull contract didn't start until October/November. It'd be like us sending Sutcliffe to Huddersfield without sorting his ankle out.

[quote="Theeaststander1":17nr1idx]the funny thing about all of this is nobody else wanted him, and FC offered him the world its no secret how bad his injury is[/quote:17nr1idx] Of course they did.

[quote="Dave K.":2mxcyih3]Of course they did.[/quote:2mxcyih3] they really didnt dave hes averaged 13/14 games a season for the last 4, and has a common recurring injury, he wasnt worth the punt

[quote="Theeaststander1":36rcb3w1]they really didnt dave[/quote:36rcb3w1] What offer him the world, like you said, how much is that? You also have no idea if other clubs wanted him or not, I'm sure there are a fee clubs who would have signed him given the chance, despite his injury record, look at Trueman, Scott etc. Evands and Hall for Rovers too. Clubs sign players who are I jury risks, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You are Rovers fan, you hate Hull, I've seen your posts about Hull on Twitter. You ate always going to be negative about us.

[quote="Dave K.":167b3a6a]What offer him the world, like you said, how much is that? You also have no idea if other clubs wanted him or not, I'm sure there are a fee clubs who would have signed him given the chance, despite his injury record, look at Trueman, Scott etc. Evands and Hall for Rovers too. Clubs sign players who are I jury risks, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You are Rovers fan, you hate Hull, I've seen your posts about Hull on Twitter. You ate always going to be negative about us.[/quote:167b3a6a] evalds has won the only lance todd on the losing team and been in various finals with a solid work ethic ryan hall doesnt need an introduction abdull hasnt completed half a season in 4 years this isnt being negative, its just following the abdull story which is laughable... he laughs at clubs and takes them for a ride

[quote="Theeaststander1":1o9gbibf][b:1o9gbibf]evalds has won the only lance todd on the losing team[/b:1o9gbibf] and been in various finals with a solid work ethic ryan hall doesnt need an introduction abdull hasnt completed half a season in 4 years this isnt being negative, its just following the abdull story which is laughable... he laughs at clubs and takes them for a ride[/quote:1o9gbibf] Incorrect.

[quote="ComeOnYouUll":1f0jnfpk]Incorrect.[/quote:1f0jnfpk] ? which bit ahh just seen, in the super league era Robbie Paul, Gary Connolly, Kevin Sinfield, Niall Evalds and Chris McQueen i stand corrected

[quote="Theeaststander1":1pimz0gf]evalds has won the only lance todd on the losing team and been in various finals with a solid work ethic ryan hall doesnt need an introduction abdull hasnt completed half a season in 4 years this isnt being negative, its just following the abdull story which is laughable... he laughs at clubs and takes them for a ride[/quote:1pimz0gf] Evalds played less than 50% on games in his 3 seasons at Cas. In fact he played less games that Abdul in those seasons. Hall hardly played for 2 years, so was a massive risk. You don't like Hull and Abdul, all of your information on Abdul and his attitude who wants him and how.much we are paying him is pure guesswork, unless you have some evidence?

[quote="Dave K.":3k5yd7uf]:lol: Evalds played less than 50% on games in his 3 seasons at Cas. In fact he played less games that Abdul in those seasons. Hall hardly played for 2 years, so was a massive risk. You don't like Hull and Abdul, all of your information on Abdul and his attitude who wants him and how.much we are paying him is pure guesswork, unless you have some evidence?[/quote:3k5yd7uf] how many games do you see abdull playing this year ?

[quote="Theeaststander1":15ksmbb8]how many games do you see abdull playing this year ?[/quote:15ksmbb8] Me, maybe 5, what's your point. 16 games according to RL project, which more than Danny Richardson. Stick to Twitter mate, arguing with Leeds, Hull, Salford and Wigan fans, that's about your level.

[quote="Theeaststander1":1sow0eje]? which bit ahh just seen, in the super league era Robbie Paul, Gary Connolly, Kevin Sinfield, Niall Evalds and Chris McQueen i stand corrected[/quote:1sow0eje] There have been twelve Lance Todd Trophy winners who were on the losing side, not the one which you originally claimed. You see it's always worth checking before posting so as to avoid looking a fool.

When you've got such a small pool of players then the majority of the signings that teams make could be classed as gambles, even those with terrible injury records usually get signed up somewhere, just look at Trueman and Abdul, there will be others too, I personally don't think Micky Mac will play that many for us as his recent injury records not the best. Regarding Abdul, I think his body isn't used to putting the hard work in, Catalans are known to not train as often as the other teams and it was rumoured that Steve Mac had him on very light training whilst he was over there. As a Rovers fan looking in at FC's pre season I think you'll obviously be a lot fitter than you was last season, (it'd be pretty hard not to be) which will/should help with your discipline and should help with the blow out scores, I still honestly believe that you're squad will probably be bottom two, I'm not sure there's enough genuine quality to improve that much, obviously being fitter will mean your more competitive but I don't see enough quality.

[quote="ComeOnYouUll":3t35ccms]There have been twelve Lance Todd Trophy winners who were on the losing side, not the one which you originally claimed. You see it's always worth checking before posting so as to avoid looking a fool.[/quote:3t35ccms] Follow him on Twitter mate, he is an expert at it. Even has an ex Hull coach as his profile picture,

[quote="bishops finger":10u30j90]When you've got such a small pool of players then the majority of the signings that teams make could be classed as gambles, even those with terrible injury records usually get signed up somewhere, just look at Trueman and Abdul, there will be others too, I personally don't think Micky Mac will play that many for us as his recent injury records not the best. Regarding Abdul, I think his body isn't used to putting the hard work in, Catalans are known to not train as often as the other teams and it was rumoured that Steve Mac had him on very light training whilst he was over there. As a Rovers fan looking in at FC's pre season I think you'll obviously be a lot fitter than you was last season, (it'd be pretty hard not to be) which will/should help with your discipline and should help with the blow out scores, I still honestly believe that you're squad will probably be bottom two, I'm not sure there's enough genuine quality to improve that much, obviously being fitter will mean your more competitive but I don't see enough quality.[/quote:10u30j90] Fair post, I still think we have better squads than Cas, Hudds and Wakey, but I'm obviously slightly biased. Will come down to injuries, but I'll be disappointed to finish below 10th, think we need and will improve on last season.

[quote="mwindass":3ue0fyo7]Does it matter if he's marquee? All it does it keep his cap value lower, especially if he's our home grown marquee[/quote:3ue0fyo7] Yeah costs the club a fortune that could be used elsewhere

[quote="Jake the Peg":28fgrobf]Yeah costs the club a fortune that could be used elsewhere[/quote:28fgrobf] Not sure what other UK based halfback we could have signed instead of Abdul, only Trueman, Russel, Leyland and Abdul have moved clubs haven't they. Not alot of quality there. I still think it's a risk worth taking with only 50k (I think) counting on the cap

Still think Cust could be a good signing. Him and Seizer could be a decent halfback pairing. Not worldbeaters but a steady duo which we have lacked . Plus it could mean Balmforth gets gametime which he probably wouldn't have and may see the club keeping him on ?. As for Abdul we don't know what he's on but not a great start being injured. Hopefully we can get him sorted as still when fit a very good player

We were that poor at halfback last year, Reynolds came in and made a huge difference. Cust and Seizer are both streets ahead of him, Brown, Smith and Charles (as it stands stands)

[quote="Dave K.":2ea4g2e7]Not sure what other UK based halfback we could have signed instead of Abdul, only Trueman, Russel, Leyland and Abdul have moved clubs haven't they. Not alot of quality there. I still think it's a risk worth taking with only 50k (I think) counting on the cap[/quote:2ea4g2e7] It's the value of the contract thats ridiculoous for me. If rumours are true and we're paying him £150k a year for 3 years it's a big chunk of cash. I'm sure we could have got him for a lot less as his options were limited. Rovers didn't want him but he was contracted to them

[quote="HU8HFC":5vtwfhtr]Well after been labelled as a low life and unemployed for suggesting Abdull had an injury, it turns out that, unfortunately, the injury to Abdul is worse than originally thought. For me if there was any indication Abdull needed a clear out of the knee, especially with his track record, the club should’ve put him under the knife ASAP. Looks inevitable that he will miss the start of the year.[/quote:5vtwfhtr] which year?

[quote="Jake the Peg":kdy3d50u]It's the value of the contract thats ridiculoous for me. If rumours are true and we're paying him £150k a year for 3 years it's a big chunk of cash. I'm sure we could have got him for a lot less as his options were limited. Rovers didn't want him but he was contracted to them[/quote:kdy3d50u] In Ritchie we trust

[quote="Jake the Peg":34hzpl5e]It's the value of the contract thats ridiculoous for me. If rumours are true and we're paying him £150k a year for 3 years it's a big chunk of cash. I'm sure we could have got him for a lot less as his options were limited. Rovers didn't want him but he was contracted to them[/quote:34hzpl5e] Maybe don't belive the rumours, it's purley guesswork or Rovers fans starting rumours. Which UK based halfback should we have gone for, we have cap space, but it's hard to get people to sign for us in the position we are in.

[quote="bonaire":rdm5zo3c]In Ritchie we trust[/quote:rdm5zo3c]