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| Quote ="Airlie Street"www.hullfc.com/first-team/matches/2001
All clubs see a rise in attendance at a new stadium, happens at all clubs in all sports. Hardly a bandwagon considering their still here 10 years later!
If you want to compare:
You lot 1500 to 9000 in a season - 600% rise
Us 5500 to 12000 - 100% rise
As well as the fact that your now at 7000 so you've lost 25% of your band wagon fans over 5 years, we have kept 100% of our so called band wagon fans over double that!'"
9000 divided by 1500, 100% rise would be 3000, 200% rise would be 4500, so from 1500 to 9000 is 600% rise for KR
5500 * 100% increase is 11000, not 12000, 12000 is a 218.18% rise for FC
7000 from 9000 is a 22% decrease for KR
apart from that, you're spot on!
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| Quote ="Standee"9000 divided by 1500, 100% rise would be 3000, 200% rise would be 4500, so from 1500 to 9000 is 600% rise for KR
5500 * 100% increase is 11000, not 12000, 12000 is a 218.18% rise for FC
7000 from 9000 is a 22% decrease for KR
apart from that, you're spot on!
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118.18% increase.....
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| Quote ="Standee"9000 divided by 1500, 100% rise would be 3000, 200% rise would be 4500, so from 1500 to 9000 is =#FF0000600% rise for KR
5500 * 100% increase is 11000, not 12000, 12000 is a =#FF0000218.18% rise for FC
7000 from 9000 is a 22% decrease for KR
apart from that, you're spot on!
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Did you and Airlie Street go to the same school?
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Did you and Airlie Street go to the same school?
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nope, I used Excel/Goal Seek rather swiftly, if I am incorrect then I apologise.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Did you and Airlie Street go to the same school?
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1500 * 6 is 9000
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| 5500 * 2.181818 is 111999.999
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| Quote ="Standee"nope, I used Excel/Goal Seek rather swiftly, if I am incorrect then I apologise.'"
Apology accepted.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Apology accepted.'"
too much jam will do that to you
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Apology accepted.'"
I've checked the maths and I don't think I am wrong.
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| Quote ="Standee"nope, I used Excel/Goal Seek rather swiftly, if I am incorrect then I apologise, I dont *think* I am though.'"
Let's just say, I believe the simplest way to try an explain for people such as Mr Airlie Street would be:
First of all find the difference between the two figures (so let's take the 5500 and 12000 in question). Difference is 6500.
Then, divide the 'difference' by the original number. So, 6500 divided by 5500, which equals 1.18.
Then, simply multiply by 100 and there you have it.
118.18.
(Now watch me be wrong! )
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| Quote ="Standee"5500 * 2.18 is 12000'"
I thought more of you than this Standee.
It's a percentage increase. I even did the workings on the previous page.
From 1500 = 0% increase
3000 = 100%
4500 = 200%
6000 = 300%
7500 = 400%
9000 = 500% increase.
5500 = 0%
11000 = 100%
12000 = 118% increase.
Jesus.
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| Quote ="Standee"5500 * 2.181818 is 111999.999'"
Standee, you're either confusing yourself.... or us!
You are right, 218.181818% of 5500 does equate to the 12,000 figure.
The percentage [u increase[/u (which I'm quite sure is what we have been talking about) however is 118.181818.
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| Quote ="RichieFC86"Standee, you're either confusing yourself.... or us!
You are right, 218.181818% of 5500 does equate to the 12,000 figure.
The percentage [uincrease[/u (which I'm quite sure is what we have been talking about) however is 118.181818.'"
And the increase from 6600 (which was about 6900 with the missing Leeds gate)
to 11200 (our average now) is?
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| Quote ="Standee"I've checked the maths and I don't think I am wrong.'"
Actually, you are.
Quote ="Standee"1500 * 6 is 9000'"
Quote ="Standee"5500 * 2.181818 is 111999.999'"
Think of it this way, if 1500 * 6 = 9000 for a 600% increase, then 1500 * 1 = 1500 for a 100% increase, which clearly isn't the case.
I think where people are going wrong is calculating the end number as a percentage of the original, rather than using the increase on it's own as should be done.
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| Quote ="RichieFC86"Standee, you're either confusing yourself.... or us!
You are right, 218.181818% of 5500 does equate to the 12,000 figure.
The percentage [uincrease[/u (which I'm quite sure is what we have been talking about) however is 118.181818.'"
is it beer o'clock yet?
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"And the increase from 6600 (which was about 6900 with the missing Leeds gate)
to 11200 (our average now) is?'"
70%, give or take a few decimals.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"And the increase from 6600 (which was about 6900 with the missing Leeds gate)
to 11200 (our average now) is?'"
You lazy bugger... I've just shown how to do it and you still couldn't be botherd!
Based on 6621 and 12000.
Percentage increase of: 81.24%
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| Quote ="RichieFC86"Standee, you're either confusing yourself.... or us!
You are right, 218.181818% of 5500 does equate to the 12,000 figure.
The percentage [uincrease[/u (which I'm quite sure is what we have been talking about) however is 118.181818.'"
Correct
or simply put
5500 x 118.18 = 6500 (new fans) + 5500 (old fans) = 12000
And I thought I was crap at maths......
must be something better to discuss....
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"70%, give or take a few decimals.'"
Yup, based on 6600 and 11200. 70%
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| Barnabus & Ritchie - Educating the nation - 1% at a time.
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| Quote ="Standee"is it beer o'clock yet?'"
I really wish it was! Finish work at 4:30, then straight in to town for last minute shopping before the daughters birthday tomorrow. On to home to wrap pressies, pass the parcel etc and then I MAY just be able to have a beer!
You'd would think they could let me go early as the best thing I have to do is calculate percentage increases and average attendances!
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Barnabus & Ritchie - Educating the nation - 1% at a time.'"
I'm more of a lurker who spends roughly 60% of my working day on here (an estimated 400% increase on 2007 figures)
Boredom took over today, I do apologise
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| The users agreement protects the club in lean periods, we must remember that at all costs we tinker with it at our peril. When the user agreement was agreed with Sean Richardson, ONE PERSON WAS FURIOUS ABOUT IT AS IT GAVE FC AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
That person was the then chairman of Hull city and of the SMC ..................... A Pearson
We can and do discount for games and if we did anymore we run the risk of upsetting the passholders, remember more fans does not mean more money to FC indeed less could be more. Getting more into the stadium is not going to happen overnight in the middle of a depression is it, we need to maintain what we have and let it grow as the club improves its playing staff.
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