I stand to be corrected here if I've got this wrong, but I think we've only won four home play-off games in the SL era?
Think our wins have come against Bradford (2006 to reach the GF), Huddersfield (2007 &12) and Catalans (2013) which is fairly slim pickings to choose from!

Seem to recall the Catalans game in 2013 was played in a torrential downpour in front of what I would describe as a 'sp' crowd (can't remember the attendance). The whole night felt a touch downbeat and that was despite the fact we won!

Either way, it would be nice to see play-off rugby at the stadium once again, in the not too distant future hopefully!!

As you say mate, 'it can't be worse can it' If it is, we'll be watching a season that ends with played 27, lost 27!!

(surely not!

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I do feel, like you, that we need to draw a line in the sand at this point. We can't change the mistakes we've made over the past 6/7 years, what's done is done to our eternal detriment. What is now important is how do the club go about making a start on repairing the horrendous damage inflicted on the club by numerous personnel over recent years.

I think Myler and Cartwright (as DOR and head coach) need to instil an attitude through the club that encourages continual improvement in all aspects of the club's operation (on and off the field). Everything else will follow on from that (better performances and hence improved results) but until those foundation stones are put in place we run the risk of repeating the same errors of the past.

I agree with you, that from the first day back at pre-season training, Cartwright (and Myler) need to emphasis this is a completely fresh beginning. We start again from scratch, from the bottom up, and let's go from there.
My worry is that, as Wilf alludes to in his above post, far from Cartwright changing the mindset of Hull Fc, this indefinable 'cancer' (to quote McCrae) that seems to be embedded in the club, ends up destroying Cartwright! and he returns to Australia a broken man!!



Richie Myler and John Cartwright are now, probably, two of the most important people our club have ever employed in all of our long history. The task has fallen to them to reflate this club and change its direction of travel, starting from the opening game next year. Someone has to, and quick, before we slip into permanent oblivion.

I'm personally hopeful that we have reached the bottom of the curve and the fightback starts right now (I'm always hopeful, it's what keeps me going!!) but the fresh start has to commence from today or we are truly doomed!
There's a tremendous amount of work to be done to put the club back where it belongs, let's hope JC (he certainly has the right initials to carry out a resurrection, that's for sure!) is the man to kickstart the fightback. We have to back him, we have no choice but to do otherwise.

Just 4,970 there that night. I was there!

This was on the back of the dismal nilling at Wembley, a narrow win over Wigan's academy and a home thrashing by Saints. We were in the play offs but realistically had no chance of making Old Trafford.

Compare that to the 16,087 against Bradford in 2006, an actual semi final to get to the Grand Final, played whilst the opening night of Hull Fair was taking place next door.

That was probably the best night we've ever had at the stadium. Everything was shiny and new, the team was actually good and the atmosphere was electric.

Bit salty

The noise that night made by the supporters was tremendous. Fantastic night

Far to few of those nights .

The fact Moore sent that up as a try means this game is only going one way

Rovers deserve the lead but that's never a try

Rovers absolutely bossing it - can't deny they deserve Old Trafford and the title next week. Warrington have barely had any ball in good field.

They really need to get rid of the refs call. The vr knew that rovers never s 9red that try but couldn't do a thing about it.

I really like matty Ashton, great player

Wire need to keep sending it left and get at Hiku with Dufty. Very prone to a poor defence read.
Think the week off is going to pay dividends here. Wire just starting to look a little out on their feet already.

Same side same result.

Proper play off game this

Huge error. This set decides the game for me

Enjoyable game that but Jesus would I be frustrated if I was a Warrington fan

Creaking defence held up in the end.

Warrington missed out due to an incorrect guess from the officials. Burgess must be seething.

And two missed kicks at goal....

Bad reffing decisions happen, I'm sure many of us weren't moaning after Gansons howler at magic all those years ago for Chris greens try

I don't buy the theory Warrington lost due to tys call, yes it shouldn't have been try and the rule needs to change. But let's say it's disallowed, whose to say Rovers don't score 3 more trys and win the game comfy. Warrington missed two kicks and were camped on Rovers line for the last 10 minutes, they had there chances and failed.

Congratulations to Rovers on reaching the Grand Final. Quite an achievement four years after finishing bottom.

They have done three things we haven't - signed quality players, got them in top condition and kept them fit. That's why they are heading to Old Trafford and we finished next to bottom.

Yep, shows things can be turned around quite quickly, they haven't gone out either and spent big on transfers, getting great value from their players, smart domestic signings complimented with good overseas players. They haven't stood still either, they make tough decisions releasing Kennedy and not keeping Linnett fir example.

A couple of injury risky players signed have really worked out for them too, gives me a bit of hope.

Not convinced it's got longevity in it, but it's certainly working for them right now.

I do look at how Hadley is playing right now and wonder how Jordan Lane would look in the current Rovers side.

Another thing that frustrates me is how different the games are reffed during big games, 3 games no yellow or red cards, there were incidents in all those games that would have been yellows earlier in the season.

It's so much better to watch.

Last nights game showed two things

1. Sign quality players and in pivotal positions, create a disciplined, structured team with a genuine desire and attitude to work hard individually and as a team on all aspects including fitness you will get rewards.

2. The ‘Try / No Try’ call needs to be binned without hesitation. If the onfield official hands it over to the VR it should be the VR alone that makes the decision based on the video evidence. To hand it over as a try or no try first just makes a mockery of the game. If they hand it over, they clearly don’t know for certain, hence why they’ve sent it up, so how can they state try/no try before it goes up? Only if it’s clear a try has been scored should it be awarded not simply based on a ‘guess’ by the ref.